RE: Better reasons to quit Christianity
August 31, 2012 at 6:56 am
(This post was last modified: August 31, 2012 at 8:35 am by spockrates.)
I don't know what else to say, Rythm, except that I appreciate the time you and others have given to help me think through this.

I did look up omniscience, and posted what I found:
Omniscience ( /ɒmˈnɪʃəns/[1]), mainly in religion, is the capacity to know everything that there is to know.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscient
Having the capacity to know something is not the same as knowing something.
I posted several biblical passages for Mister Agenda, since he is familiar with the Bible. These clearly demonstrated that the biblical authors believed in a God who has the capacity to know all, but chooses not to know all.
I've asked if anyone disbelieves experience is knowledge that can only be obtained by experiencing it. I also asked if anyone disagrees that Christians teach the God in whom they believe is in no way infinitely experienced so that there is no evil experience he has not experienced, and so knows. No one disagreed.
So I honestly can see no possible way that any Christian can say God has experienced all, and so has personal knowledge of all. (Not even the most stubborn Calvanist would disagree with this!) I can see no possibility that the definition of omniscience I cited is incorrect. Since the birth of the religion, there have always been Christians who have believed that omniscience is merely an unlimited potential to know all.
As Spock said, "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains--no matter how improbable--must be the truth." There may be other reasons God does not exist, but the false idea that omniscience and freewill cannot coexist appears to have been shown to be an impossibility. If we instead found it to be the only possibility, I would have agreed such was a sufficient reason for me to quit Christianity.

I did look up omniscience, and posted what I found:
Omniscience ( /ɒmˈnɪʃəns/[1]), mainly in religion, is the capacity to know everything that there is to know.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscient
Having the capacity to know something is not the same as knowing something.
I posted several biblical passages for Mister Agenda, since he is familiar with the Bible. These clearly demonstrated that the biblical authors believed in a God who has the capacity to know all, but chooses not to know all.
I've asked if anyone disbelieves experience is knowledge that can only be obtained by experiencing it. I also asked if anyone disagrees that Christians teach the God in whom they believe is in no way infinitely experienced so that there is no evil experience he has not experienced, and so knows. No one disagreed.
So I honestly can see no possible way that any Christian can say God has experienced all, and so has personal knowledge of all. (Not even the most stubborn Calvanist would disagree with this!) I can see no possibility that the definition of omniscience I cited is incorrect. Since the birth of the religion, there have always been Christians who have believed that omniscience is merely an unlimited potential to know all.
As Spock said, "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains--no matter how improbable--must be the truth." There may be other reasons God does not exist, but the false idea that omniscience and freewill cannot coexist appears to have been shown to be an impossibility. If we instead found it to be the only possibility, I would have agreed such was a sufficient reason for me to quit Christianity.
"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains (no matter how improbable) must be the truth."
--Spock
--Spock