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Why I am still a Christian.
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
(September 2, 2012 at 6:33 pm)MeOwnThing Wrote: Atheists all belong in one group, one "orginisation"?

There is very little in the way of organisation, which is precisely the point.

(September 2, 2012 at 8:41 am)greneknight Wrote: God is a concept that I haven't really formulated properly in my head. At the moment, I accept that there is no evidence whatsoever for God to exist and there is no rational argument in favour of God that satisfies me or that cannot be refuted by other counter-arguments. I'm almost tempted to say God is bunkum but so much of Western civilization and art are based on this concept of God that I want to give myself more time to formulate my idea about it. Right now, I can only honestly admit in my head that God is probably a personified metaphor for goodness and truth. My feelings are different but feelings are unreliable and unthinking. But in my head, God can't be a personal being with independent thought and will. But it's all very fluid and uncertain. I really haven't quite made up my mind. This idea is not the idea of my vicar. It's my own personal idea based on my own observation and examination of the evidence and the arguments.

Because of my culture as a Christian, this metaphor God is best expressed in its Triune form - in the formula that we are used to in the Western culture. So I have no problem with crossing myself when the name of the Holy Trinity is invoked.

But nothing is carved in rock yet. I'm still explorin[/size]g and forming my own ideas.

Sounds incredibly wishy washy.

You struggle to even call yourself an actual theist yet identify yourself as christian for cultural reasons. Just seems stupid to me. Christianity is not just cultural, it is a religion. To call yourself one it would naturally make sense that you at least believe in the god it preaches. You seem not to, or have your own interpretation of it at least. But then again, I suppose the idea of god is indeed different for pretty much every christian.

(September 2, 2012 at 7:12 pm)greneknight Wrote: I'm just saying that the FACT is Christian groups do run charitable organisations more than anyone else and even in this country

Care to back up these facts?
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Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 9:26 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 1, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by frankiej - September 1, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 9:40 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Reforged - September 1, 2012 at 10:33 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Anomalocaris - September 1, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by LastPoet - September 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Ace Otana - September 4, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Red Celt - September 1, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Phish - September 2, 2012 at 4:09 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 8:41 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Phish - September 1, 2012 at 11:49 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by genkaus - September 1, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by LastPoet - September 1, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Welsh cake - September 1, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cinjin - September 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 7:27 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cinjin - September 2, 2012 at 10:45 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 2, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by MeOwnThing - September 2, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 7:12 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 2, 2012 at 7:37 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 3, 2012 at 10:54 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by padraic - September 1, 2012 at 7:38 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 1, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 10:10 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 1, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Jeffonthenet - September 1, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 2, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by padraic - September 1, 2012 at 11:57 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 2, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 1:50 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by padraic - September 2, 2012 at 2:35 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 2, 2012 at 4:04 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Godschild - September 2, 2012 at 4:13 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by KichigaiNeko - September 2, 2012 at 5:19 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 2, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 2, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 2, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 3, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by MysticKnight - September 2, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by MysticKnight - September 2, 2012 at 9:51 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 2, 2012 at 10:11 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by FallentoReason - September 2, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by MysticKnight - September 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by FallentoReason - September 2, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 3, 2012 at 3:20 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by FallentoReason - September 2, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Godschild - September 3, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 2:26 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 2:21 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 3, 2012 at 4:45 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 4:55 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 3, 2012 at 7:46 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 7:59 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 3, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 3, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 3, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 8:25 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 11:48 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by The Grand Nudger - September 3, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by The Grand Nudger - September 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 3, 2012 at 6:50 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 3, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by The Grand Nudger - September 3, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by The Grand Nudger - September 3, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by MysticKnight - September 3, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 4, 2012 at 6:12 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 4, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by genkaus - September 4, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 4, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 4, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 4, 2012 at 6:20 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 4, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 4, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 4, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 3, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by KichigaiNeko - September 4, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2012 at 11:14 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 4, 2012 at 9:52 pm

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