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Why I am still a Christian.
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RE: Why I am still a Christian.
(September 2, 2012 at 9:51 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(September 2, 2012 at 9:44 pm)greneknight Wrote: We obviously differ in our definition of what makes a Christian. Mine accords with what my vicar and bishop teach. Do you expect a person of my age to go against the definition laid down by my priests and start my own religion? Anyway, I agree with them. So what's so dishonest about that?

I don't know about your Vicar or bishop but to most Christians and non-Christians...the following things about you will make you non-Christian:

You believe the bible is made up by people, has immoral teachings, and is full of errors, and not written by God.
You believe it's most likely God doesn't exist in reality, and is merely a conceptual metaphor.

You neither are a Theist (believer in God) nor are you a Christian (believer in the Bible)....

If I asked you, do you believe Jesus existed? You probably would say...you don't believe either way.

You like the religious culture you are in, you served for a long time, and you like the church and you are taking part in it.

Sorry bro...reality is you're an Agnostic Soft Atheist.

If your Church said you were Muslim, would it mean you are Muslim? no bro...

Just be honest to yourself.

There can be no doubt we disagree on the definitions. You define "Christian" as a believer in the Bible. That is a shocking definition. Nobody in my country will accept such an obviously fundamentalist Bible-belt definition. The Archbishop of Canterbury has warned parishioners time and again that Christians aren't believers in the Bible. He calls them bibliolaters, as in idolaters. In my church a Bible-believer is a heretic.

It's the same for all Christians in Europe. You are obviously very much influenced by American Christians, many of whom are fundamentalists. That's the sad thing about the USA. All of us are amused that 50% of Americans believe in a 10,000 year old earth or universe or something stupid like that. In my country, they'll put you in a padded cell for such insanity.
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Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 9:26 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 1, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by frankiej - September 1, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 9:40 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Reforged - September 1, 2012 at 10:33 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Anomalocaris - September 1, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by LastPoet - September 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Ace Otana - September 4, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Red Celt - September 1, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Phish - September 2, 2012 at 4:09 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 8:41 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Phish - September 1, 2012 at 11:49 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by genkaus - September 1, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by LastPoet - September 1, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Welsh cake - September 1, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cinjin - September 1, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 7:27 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cinjin - September 2, 2012 at 10:45 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 2, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by MeOwnThing - September 2, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 7:12 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 2, 2012 at 7:37 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 3, 2012 at 10:54 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by padraic - September 1, 2012 at 7:38 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 1, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 10:10 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 1, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 1, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Jeffonthenet - September 1, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 2, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 1, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by padraic - September 1, 2012 at 11:57 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 2, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 1:50 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by padraic - September 2, 2012 at 2:35 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 2, 2012 at 4:04 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Godschild - September 2, 2012 at 4:13 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by KichigaiNeko - September 2, 2012 at 5:19 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 2, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Napoléon - September 2, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 2, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 3, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by MysticKnight - September 2, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by MysticKnight - September 2, 2012 at 9:51 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 2, 2012 at 10:11 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by FallentoReason - September 2, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by MysticKnight - September 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by FallentoReason - September 2, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 2, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 3, 2012 at 3:20 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by FallentoReason - September 2, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Godschild - September 3, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 2:26 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 2:21 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 3, 2012 at 4:45 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 4:55 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 3, 2012 at 7:46 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 7:59 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 3, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 3, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CBA222 - September 3, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 8:25 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 11:48 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by The Grand Nudger - September 3, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by The Grand Nudger - September 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 3, 2012 at 6:50 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 3, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by The Grand Nudger - September 3, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by The Grand Nudger - September 3, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by MysticKnight - September 3, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 3, 2012 at 9:26 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 4, 2012 at 6:12 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Drich - September 4, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by genkaus - September 4, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 4, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 4, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 4, 2012 at 6:20 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 4, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by greneknight - September 4, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 4, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by CaseyTheAthie - September 3, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by KichigaiNeko - September 4, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by The Grand Nudger - September 4, 2012 at 11:14 am
RE: Why I am still a Christian. - by Cyberman - September 4, 2012 at 9:52 pm

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