The Great Flood

[Daystar]

I will ask you like I did EvF, where does the teaching of science conflict with the teaching of the Bible?

I did respond to this question on another thread, I will quote my response if you haven't seen it/do not remember it.

You will have to be patient with me, I have a lot of stuff coming at me from all angles.

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The creation of the universe and the Earth in 6 days, the resurrection of the dead to life, the healing of the sick with no medical treatment, talking animals & plants, virgin births, levitation, four corners to a flat earth, windows that let torrential rain through in a domed firmament, the flood (amount of water, speed of water rise, flood geology), the claimed existence of invisible beings (god, devil), places (heaven, hell) and things (souls).

Most of all however the fact is that the bible IS NOT fact and it has no place being taught alongside science, in replacement of science or as in any way the equivalent of science.

Is that enough to be going on with?

Ooooo!!! Now we're talking!

The Bible doesn't say the universe and the earth were created in 6 literal 24 hour periods and doesn't disagree with the accepted estimation of science. The resurrection of life from the dead, in most cases (other than Lazarus by Jesus) actually read more like CPR events not entirely out of place with modern medical science. Lazarus was diferent because Jesus was diferent and you can't test or explain that. That and the healing of the sick were spiritual matters that none of us can understand or compare anything with. You can't discount them only because you don't understand them. Talking animals and plants are similar but I would point out that the animal or plant are not actually talking, spirit creatures are talking using the animals / plants as representations.

The four corners reference you brought up is a figurative expression not at all out of place with modern day terminology, the Bible stated that the earth was round long before science did.

The 'windows that let torrential rain through in a domed firmament' is really interesting! The Greek Septuagint translated the Hebrew raqua, which means expanse as stereoma, which means firm and solid structure. They did this because the expanse was in a figurative sense solidly founded. The Latin Vulgat uses the Latin term firmamentum. The KJV and RSV and others used the English "firmament," but the KJV for example gives an alternative reading of "expansion," and the ASV gives "expanse" in the footnote.

Other translations support such rendering - "expanse" (Ro; Fn; Yg; An; NW); "expansión" (VM [Spanish]); "étendue [extent or expanse]" (Segond; Ostervald [French]).

The result is that some uninformed skeptics consider the ancient Hebrew concept of the universe to be of a solid vault arched over the earth with sluice holes through which rain can enter and the stars fixed within. Diagrams of this concept even appear in some Bible dictionaries and translations.

The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia - "But this assumption is in reality based more upon the ideas prevalent in Europe during the Dark Ages than upon any actual statements in the O[ld] T[estament]." - Edited by J. Orr, 1960, Vol. I, p. 314.

Job 37:18 is clearly figurative because the Hebrew word shachaq that is translated as "skies" can also be rendered as "film of dust" or "clouds." In view of the nebulous quality of that which is 'beaten out,' it is clear that the Bible writer is only figuratively comparing the skies to a metal mirror whose burnished face gives off a bright reflection. - Compare Da 12:3.

The flood issue of water I have dealt with here and since you provide no grounds for dismissal I assume that your position remains baseless. I have also considered gods, hell and the soul which you haven't responded to so perhaps you need more time?