RE: Op/ED g/God, broken concept
September 4, 2012 at 8:33 pm
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2012 at 8:39 pm by Lion IRC.)
(September 4, 2012 at 7:55 am)Brian37 Wrote:(September 2, 2012 at 9:32 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Multiple gods is flawed theology because one god could simply undo what another god did. One creates a universe. Then another comes along an uncreates it. What's the first god gonna do? Recreate it? Arm wrestle to settle the dispute over whether or not to have a universe?
God = highest Being. The One who can beat anybody/everybody in an arm wrestling contest.
Thats not true.
a) Zeus was believed to have been born.
b) The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob....etc. predates the Greek Empire and ancient Greek mythology. (And the Persians and the Babylonians and the Assyrians.)
Blah blah blah blah blah. "My invisible friend claim is older than yours". DON'T CARE....
I was responding to Tobie who incorrectly asserted;
Quote:...Anyway, you do realise that your angry desert god Yahweh is just a Zeus kind of figure but with the other gods later retconned by the tribes that invented him?
(September 4, 2012 at 7:55 am)Brian37 Wrote: ... People believed in gods long before even the first written language, so by your logic, the first is right, so you by using your own logic should worship the first cave god a human manufactured.
Thats exactly right. I do worship the same God. The fact that the cave man and me have incomplete and non-identical
understandings of the exact nature of God doesnt prevent either of us from worship.
(September 4, 2012 at 7:55 am)Brian37 Wrote: ...Before you get to word one of any book of myth, the starting naked assertion is that a disembodied brain with no brain, no location, exists....
Now look who is making assertions about what God is/isnt.
Where do you get YOUR information?
(September 4, 2012 at 7:55 am)Brian37 Wrote: ...If you want to believe such ancient desert bullshit, you can...The Garden of Eden was not a desert. You dont even know what you are rejecting.
(September 4, 2012 at 7:55 am)Brian37 Wrote: ... But modern science and medicine and knowledge of evolution kind of fucks up ANY claim of sky daddies....
Thats funny. I am very happy with the direction modern science is taking. Until recently, I could never have used dark energy/big bang inflation (''modern science'') to justify the biblical statement that God stretches out the heavens. Whoever thought that the multiverse idea of another dimension of space/time reality existing beyond our universe (Heaven/Afterlife) might actually be scientifically feasible after all.
And I think we can give modern science credit for providing the ultrasound evidence that embryos are people. Science is turning around peoples views on abortion and F.A.S.D. (And Facebook pictures of embryos at 6 weeks.)
Science is providing the means by which the "viability" of life outside the womb is getting earlier and earlier. Science is providing the evidence that embryos "feel" (respond to) external stimulii at LEAST as early as 4 weeks from conception. Science is providing the "clinically proven " evidence used by companies like Bayer/Elevit which market products products for use BEFORE and during pregnancy - TO ENHANCE HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR EMBRYOS.
Science is doing a great job sanctifying life.