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The 'Faithful'
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RE: The 'Faithful'
Godschild Wrote:The knowing Christ lived as a physical man comes only after faith, you are trying to put the horse before the cart. Scripture tells us that Christ had to die for the atonement of our sin, a spirit could not die a physical death nor shed blood to cover our sin. A spiritual Christ could not have lived and been tempted to become the perfect Lamb for mankind. It seems to me you are the one who wants absolute evidence, I did not require it, it was given to me after I believed.

What I'm wondering is if this miracle of knowledge works in every field. I'm studying to be an engineer, but from what I've gathered here, if I have the faith that I am an engineer then all I need to know will come to me.

Engineering, nor history, works like this of course. That's great that 'through faith' you claim to have uncovered mysterious knowledge not known to you before, but I'm concerned with evidence i.e. the tangible. Aside from this, there's nothing that you've said which debunks the mentality of the time. People believed in spiritual occurences all the time just like in Mithraism. What you don't seem to understand is that these spiritual beings were believed to obtain human qualities. These saviour gods suffered like humans would, but somewhere in the heavely realms.

Quote:Fallen, a spirit-only savior could be a guide. That is true. However, a spirit-only savior would lack the authority of someone with actually field experience. A human savior has both theoretical and practical experience. But I also agree Christianity is not original in this respect. Buddha also seems to qualify as one who "overcame" human weakness, but my understanding of that tradition is limited.

I know what you're saying, but it's none of my problem if in reality the authority of the NT didn't have field experience. We can only take as truth the things that have credible evidence for, independent of what we want the ideal situation to be.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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The 'Faithful' - by FallentoReason - August 27, 2012 at 6:36 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by CaseyTheAthie - September 3, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by FallentoReason - September 3, 2012 at 9:08 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 9:12 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by FallentoReason - September 3, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by CaseyTheAthie - September 3, 2012 at 9:24 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by FallentoReason - September 3, 2012 at 8:54 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Neo-Scholastic - September 4, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by FallentoReason - September 4, 2012 at 12:22 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Neo-Scholastic - September 4, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Neo-Scholastic - September 4, 2012 at 12:42 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by genkaus - September 4, 2012 at 4:00 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Minimalist - September 3, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Ryantology - September 3, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Drich - September 3, 2012 at 11:41 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by FallentoReason - September 4, 2012 at 12:01 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by The Grand Nudger - September 3, 2012 at 11:48 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 4, 2012 at 12:32 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by JohnDG - September 4, 2012 at 4:13 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by CaseyTheAthie - September 4, 2012 at 11:13 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by FallentoReason - September 4, 2012 at 8:26 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Godschild - September 4, 2012 at 11:15 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Neo-Scholastic - September 4, 2012 at 11:32 pm
RE: The 'Faithful' - by FallentoReason - September 5, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Godschild - September 6, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by FallentoReason - September 6, 2012 at 1:20 am
RE: The 'Faithful' - by Whateverist - September 6, 2012 at 4:23 am

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