(September 14, 2012 at 1:00 am)apophenia Wrote:Quote:4. No Preaching
To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance with your own theology, philosophy or point of view is not permitted. If you want to preach, get yourself a soapbox in hyde park and don't do it here. You are welcome to discuss your own beliefs, why you believe them, etc. Just don't expect or demand anyone to agree with them.
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(September 13, 2012 at 8:11 am)greneknight Wrote: I have every right to point out that Vinny is dishonest in his replies and that he isn't telling the truth. It's none of your bloody business if I write my own observation. Who the hell do you think you are? Thank God you aren't the forum police. I have as much right to express my view that Vinny is not an atheist although he pretends to be and if you don't like reading what I post, you are at liberty to put me on ignore. I don't give a shit what you think. If you are sick, go see a doctor.
That's not necessarily the case. From my perspective, you are violating this forum's rules against preaching by attempting to badger Vinny into representing himself the way that you think he should.
You would be lucky if I were to put you on ignore, but I am not going to do so. Instead, I am going to be reporting future posts obsessing over Vinny's alleged sins as preaching and thus a violation of the forum rules, and I urge others to do likewise.
(It's also a borderline personal attack as you are dedicating posts simply to calling him a liar rather than responding substantially to the things he says. [Not to mention they are essentially ad hominems, and thus stupid and irrelevant])
@Undeceived: I want to commend you for your candid response. I don't actually know what other theists would do, but I compliment you for taking the time to at least investigate the arguments. I'm sure there are many who wouldn't do likewise. (Though as noted, how many, I do not know.) I disagree with your understanding of the implications of evolution, but have no real interest in entering that debate.
How can that be preaching? Do you even know what preaching means? YOu should read the exchanges from the start. It started with me asking Vinny very nicely to state clearly if he really is an atheist as he claims to be. He gave an answer that is as usual ambiguous. He asked if what I was asking was his true position? To which I replied yes it was. I wanted to know for sure if he's an atheist as he claims to be because his posts don't seem to show he's an atheist. He then replied with an attack on my earlier rudeness (in fact that rudeness was something I was guilty of at the start and I had stopped doing it that way. By the way, the rudeness is very much like yours). Based on this history of our exchanges, I concluded that he was being dishonest because he said he would give me an answer but he did not. That's dishonest.
You are very silly to use threats of reporting that I'm trying to preach on me. I cannot for the world of me see how this can be an example of preaching. Let any moderator adjudicate if I am indeed preaching. I have no doubt they will show you that it's your failure to understand what "preaching" means that has led you to make such a shocking and false accusation. I don't think you intended to make a false accusation. Rather, I think it's your misunderstanding of what "preaching" means that has led you to this ridiculous conclusion.