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Christianity and Islam, religions of peace or war.
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RE: Christianity and Islam, religions of peace or war.
(September 15, 2012 at 5:42 pm)Polaris Wrote:
(September 15, 2012 at 5:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If you read Quran, this how it goes:

I am preaching the religion, but there is no force upon anyone to accept it, and everyone can believe or disbelief.
Fight those whom fight you, but if they incline to peace, incline to peace.
The disbelievers kept breaking treaties, so don't uphold the final treaty but attack them, since they have no intentions of keeping this treaty and will attack you as soon as they get the upper hand, however, as for those people whom never broke the treaties with you and were true, then keep the peace with them and stay true to them, however if they accept Islam, then don't fight then anymore.
As for the people of the book (whom fought the Muslims), fight them till they are subdued and give the Jaziya.

If you take into all context, it never said to fight those whom incline to peace, but said the opposite, said if they incline to peace, to incline to peace.

Now that to me seems logical, and peaceful.

However, imperialistic rulers and their stooges, wanted to fight wars to conquer and hence said you see those verses teaching peace with those whom want peace....they are abrogated...instead you are to fight all non-Muslims till they become Muslims or in the case of the people of the book, until they are subdued and pay the jazeeya.

They took the verses out of context, and non-muslims trying to show Islam is not a religion of peace, do so as well.

I thought the non-Moslem tax was only applied to those of the Book (Jews and Christians).

That is what I meant by the people of the book.

It's interpretation that made it universal. If you look at the Surah, it taught to stay true to those whom were true to their treaties.

This means if the people of the book in the Area were true to their treaties, they were not to be fought.

However imperialistic rulers and their stooges took everything out of context.

They said attack all polytheists until they accept Islam.
They said attack all people of the book, until they are subdued and pay the jazeeya.

However if you look at verses, the Quran is is very clear, in that you are not to fight those whom incline to peace.

The Surah was dealing with a situation, where the enemies of Muslims were constantly breaking treaties and were planning to break the final one and had no intentions of peace.

So it told them to attack them before they get the upper-hand.

However it clearly stated as for those whom were true to their treaties, to stay true to them.
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Christianity and Islam, religions of peace or war. - by JohnDG - September 15, 2012 at 4:53 am
RE: Christianity and Islam, religions of peace or war. - by MysticKnight - September 15, 2012 at 5:47 pm

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