Like it or not, God is immoral.

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Seriously? This is the cornerstone of the atheist arguements that their isn't any proof of God outside of the bible.
This is atheism 101.

There is no proof of god outside or inside the bible. But we are not talking about proof here.

None of which would be possiable if God was not first defined by scripture.

But since they have gone beyond the scripture, it cannot be treated as the sole source of god's definition.

again no interpertation would be possiable if not for the bible to extrapolate and interprete from.

And since there has been so much of that extrapolation and interpretation, the bible no longer remains the sole source of your god's definition.

I did, the source was the blue letter bible. just type in a word and it will give you every instance of that word. Just find one that speaks of the nature of God and click on the number beside "righteousness."

I did. And there is no indication there that it means anything other "morally upright"

By extrapolate I mean to say to choose or pick apart from the modern interpertation of that word that you have been repersenting. And again it seem you are not familiar with how a lexicon works, or have chosen to ignore it in favor of your own arguement. It gives specific uses and instances/context in which a word is used.

And on what basis are you picking or choosing? Not on the basis of the lexicon - there is none. In all the instances the word is used, it has not been shown to mean anything different than being moral.

So giving you a link to the source material is not enough? are you so brainwash into people predigesting information and telling you how to think you are asking the man repersenting an opposing arguement to tell you how to use his website? Why not do a google search and try it yourself? Because if I simply give a link to page you will not know how or why I got there. Unless you are asking how to use a lexicon in general. Is this what you are asking?

Done the google. Seen your link. There is no indication even in your link that the word is not synonymous to being moral.

appreantly so. this is for the Hebrew word do you want one for the greek as well?
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexi...6666&t=KJV

Do this one first. Show me where the lexicon distinguishes between righteous as god's attribute and being moral as god's attribute.

No I did not. Cut and past the message where i supposedly said this.

"That is why God descriibes Himself as Righteous. Righteousness is not morality. Morality is man's (Flawed) attempt at his personal version of Righteousness."

Your statement.

It seems someone is changing his position as to try and save face.

Not at all. I've always said that being righteous is another way of saying moral and therefore righteousness is just another way of saying morality.

Every been to jail? My father was a prison gaurd for like 10 years or so. What 'this' reminds me of is the stories of murders and rapists ganging together to beat up what they consider to be the 'low lifes.'
i remember thinking, How can a man convicted of a terriable crime and sentenced to life in prison feel the justification to judge his terriable crime any less terriable that someone elses... Then it dawned on me.. The Meaning of Self Righteousness. In that One deems himself or his 'morality' as the true righteous standard. It is only from this position of absolute righteousness (derived from with in himself) that he can judge another when he himself has blood on his hands. Now think of the level of self righteousness needed to judge God from this position of hyprocrisy and truly feel one is justified in his judgement.

Sounds like a concept particularly applicable to your god. He has more blood on his hand that any creature - living or dead and he talks about his own position as that of absolute righteousness. The only difference is, he is not rotting in prison - but should be.