Like it or not, God is immoral.

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This would have made a good arguement if you lead with it, but as it is this effort seems like a desperate attempt to salvage your personal pride.

The validity of an argument is not changed by the time of its making. Besides, I don't need to salvage anything, I am winning this argument.

Only if you wish to also dismiss an accurate protrayal of the relationship between righteousness and 'morality.'

An accurate portrayal would be that they are synonymous.

Defination1B says otherwise. Can't you admit when you are wrong and been shown to be a fool for argueing reference material? If no, then simply remain silent. It is better to be thought of as a fool, than open say/write something and prove everyone right. The Lexicon plainly says Righteousness is an attribute of God. Defination 1B Nothing elses needs to be said here.'

Where is definition 1B is morality mentions? Don't embarrass yourself by trying to muddle the issue. That the bible states that being righteous (morally upright) is an attribute of god was never disputed. What is being disputed is your statement that being righteous and being moral are two different things.

Nuh-uh.

Yeah-uh.

I have pointed out several times in this thread that 'Morality" Is mans attemp at his own version of righteousness. I even pointed to the 'Self Righteousness' needed to judge God. to which you have even given a heart felt example.... Do you still need me to spell it out for you or do you get it yet???

I need you to give me evidence to support the statement that "morality is man's attempt at righteousness", which would lead you to conclude that it is something other than righteousness. Everywhere, in the bible, in the lexicon and in the dictionary, there has been no statement that would lead to that conclusion. Your repeating it doesn't make it so.

Man's Morality is what the bible/Christ refers to as Self righteousness. This behaivor is catagorically condemned across the board by Christ through several parables that he taught. For the sin we are willing to accept or to incorperate into our lives like gossip, white lies or even something as big as homosexuality, has been deemed unacceptable by God and His stated righteousness. So inorder for one to accept these sins as accepted or moral behaivor, then one must have a righteousness apart from God. this 'righteousness' is often derived from one's self or the community in which he chooses to live.

Show me where morality is referred to as something different than righteousness. All your statement says is that a man's righteousness (morality) - which he'd correctly refer to as his self-righteousness - is different from god's righteousness (morality)- which god would refer to his self-righteousness. Our morality may be unacceptable to your god's righteousness (morality) and his morality is unacceptable to us.

No it is not for i have just shown you where man's 'Morality' differs from God's stated righteousness. therefore the two words are Not ALWAYS synomous. There are 'moral acts to be considered righteous, but not all of man's morality is compatiable with Godly Righteousness. Therefore the two words can not be used interchangably. Not by an honest man anyway.

No, you haven't shown that because you have shown no instance where morality was used distinctly and irreconcilably for righteousness. Every instance that have been given show that the words can and are used interchangeably.

Indeed it does in that all the things listed must comply with the standards of God. Read the defination and the suplimentary materials on the linked page again.

Sorry, the lexicon makes no indication that the other things must comply to god's standards. Your bible does - but that is irrelevant to the discussion of ethics.

Not even close. The on page defination does not support your assertion. reset and try again this time use the on page definations and commentary. otherwise know your commentary will be rightfully trivilized and dismissed.

Yes it does - since in common understanding the words are used synonymously and your lexicon provides no contradiction.

So you believe yourself to be on par with God?

Ofcourse not. I'm much better than your god. After all, I'm not an egomaniacal, genocidal lunatic.

And because God has the authority to dictate righteousness, you do as well?

It is because I believe that no one has the authority to dictate righteousness to anyone else that I am so much better than your god.

Goodluck with trying to sell God on that one.

I have no need to sell a figment of imagination on anything. Those who buy that figment should know that by now.

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I will try and simplify this respectfully if I over simplify something it is not to be taken as a sign of disrespect.

God does not live to a good standard in order to be considered good. "Good" is a term that can be defined as 'God like.' Now put out of your mind your current understanding of Good. Now substitute it for Anything God decides to do. Whatever that is God's 'good' standard or Righteousness. Even if it is smashing babies against rocks or killing entire races of people. Why? Because Good is not a universal standard in which to measure God. God is the good standard.

Now you may ask why can god do these things but when you do them it is considered evil. In short, you are not God. God reserves the right to be able to do with His creation whatever is in His will.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the reason why not only the god of bible is sick and demented, but his followers are as well.