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Like it or not, God is immoral.
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RE: Like it or not, God is immoral.
(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: Then if you are making the claim that Righteousness and morality are the same then show me. Showm me one place where morality is mentioned in the bible. I have told you where God has identified righteousness apart from His own as personal or self righteousness. Now you show me where your version of morality/righteousness (because you can used them interchangably) is recognized and accepted by God.

It's not actually. Which lends even more credence to my claim. Because morality and righteousness mean the same thing, the translations use the same word wherever both are applicable.

(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: This is what your arguement is reduced to if you can not support it with the correct data.

Actually, if you look one post back, that is what your argument was reduced to. I just responded in kind.

(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: Big Grin Here is the simple logic that man's morality and God's Righteousness are two different things.
Morality is subjective and subject to change from culture to culture or even from generation to generation. God's righteousness Does not Change. The fact that morality is subject to change puts morality in a different catagory than unchanging righteousness of God.

You should really learn some logic. That should stop you from making these embarrassing mistakes. Here's your argument in a different form.

Morality is subjective and subject to change from culture to culture or even generation to generation. My "way of life" Does not Change. The fact that morality is subject to change puts it in a different category that unchanging "way of life" that is mine.

NO, IT DOESN'T. It is just another type of morality. If it is dependent on the entity, like god's righteousness is dependent on the fictional being, then it is subjective. Being unchanging does not objective make. In fact, if morality is dependent upon the individual identity of the society/generation/culture/person then you should not expect it to change unless the identity changes as well. Thus, your god's righteousness neatly fits into the category of morality.


(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: Christ tells several parables and condemns those who change God's will/law or abuses His grace to their own gain. I can give you the parables to read indivisually and explain them or you can read this commentary on self righteousness or 'morality created outside of the Express will of God.
http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVartic...usness.htm

Don't bother. I don't give a shit about what some bronze age carpenter supposedly said.


(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: Again you first show me where the bible even identifies and accepts 'morality.'

It doesn't, because it means the same thing as righteousness.


(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: My statement says that their is a difference between morality and God's Righteousness. To tie that back into the OP "God is immoral" completes what it is I have to say. In that it does not matter how 'moral' man chooses to judge that actions of God. Because his standard is corrupt.'

And that is why your statement is wrong. There is no difference between morality and god's righteousness because god's righteousness is a type of morality. And to establish a particular one as corrupt. you first have to prove that it is.

(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: Because morality is not even recognized by the bible.

Because, since it means the same thing as righteousness, two different words are avoided so as not to confuse stupid readers like you.

(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: You are claiming equal footing then it is on you to show that the bible claims this.

I'm saying that the bible claims no such thing. I'm sayaing that the dictionary does and neither the bible, nor the biblical lexicon contradicts.

(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: I am saying morality is such a crap standard that their is no mention of it outside of the break down of self righteousness which is condemned.

And I'm saying that you are wrong since self-rigteousness and righteousness are simply two other words for morality.

(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: then show me
Proove it. Book Chapter and Verse Please.

Not in the bible you moron, but everywhere else.

Quote:Yes it does - since in common understanding the words are used synonymously and your lexicon provides no contradiction.
see the above statement.


(September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am)Drich Wrote: Which is why you have been given this life, so you can choose whether or not you want to spend eternity with a beng like this. Subsequently this is also why once you make that choice you will be held to it for eternity.

That's a steaming pile of crap. I wasn't given life, since there is no giver. I simply had it. And I won't hold on to it for eternity.
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Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Greatest I am - September 12, 2012 at 7:04 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Reforged - September 12, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by JohnDG - September 12, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by jonb - September 12, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by MysticKnight - September 12, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 12, 2012 at 10:38 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Reforged - September 13, 2012 at 10:03 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Ben Davis - September 13, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 14, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Ben Davis - September 14, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 14, 2012 at 9:08 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 14, 2012 at 9:32 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 14, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by JohnDG - September 15, 2012 at 4:06 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 15, 2012 at 8:48 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 15, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by greneknight - September 15, 2012 at 9:55 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 15, 2012 at 11:27 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 15, 2012 at 2:07 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 15, 2012 at 6:50 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 15, 2012 at 7:43 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 15, 2012 at 9:53 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 15, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 16, 2012 at 12:41 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 16, 2012 at 1:11 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 16, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 16, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 16, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 16, 2012 at 3:37 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 16, 2012 at 9:12 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 16, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 17, 2012 at 8:30 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 17, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 17, 2012 at 10:34 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Ben Davis - September 17, 2012 at 10:41 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 17, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 17, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 17, 2012 at 2:07 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 17, 2012 at 7:53 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 18, 2012 at 3:09 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by greneknight - September 15, 2012 at 8:59 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by greneknight - September 15, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 14, 2012 at 3:13 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Polaris - September 15, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Godschild - September 12, 2012 at 11:48 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Lion IRC - September 13, 2012 at 1:02 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by JohnDG - September 14, 2012 at 12:20 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by IATIA - September 13, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Minimalist - September 13, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Minimalist - September 13, 2012 at 2:00 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by ThomM - September 13, 2012 at 8:35 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by greneknight - September 13, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by downbeatplumb - September 15, 2012 at 4:37 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by IATIA - September 15, 2012 at 10:05 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by greneknight - September 15, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by IATIA - September 16, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 16, 2012 at 1:03 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Ben Davis - September 16, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Drich - September 16, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 16, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Polaris - September 16, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 16, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Polaris - September 16, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 16, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Polaris - September 16, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by genkaus - September 16, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Polaris - September 16, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by IATIA - September 16, 2012 at 1:15 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Faith No More - September 16, 2012 at 11:53 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by IATIA - September 16, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Faith No More - September 16, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by IATIA - September 16, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Cinjin - September 17, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Skepsis - September 17, 2012 at 1:38 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Tobie - September 17, 2012 at 10:43 am
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by Cinjin - September 17, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: Like it or not, God is immoral. - by greneknight - September 18, 2012 at 3:15 am

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