(September 16, 2012 at 9:47 am)Tiberius Wrote: Way to miss my point...again! The people who I'm talking about do not pay tax. They are all earning less than the minimum taxable amount (so the unemployed, students, poor, etc.). For them, the NHS is completely free. They rarely stop to think about the effect it has on everyone else.
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Now go back to post #9 and read what you actually wrote, then recognise what I was replying to... and not what you just added, as a means of protecting your ego.
You claimed that people think of the NHS as free. There was no mention of the people who didn't pay NI. You were talking about people who seemed oblivious to the fact that the NHS isn't free. I corrected you, by adding that "free" is just a contraction of "free at the point of delivery" and nothing else... ever since which, you've been spiralling away... ducking and diving, rather than admitting the you were wrong in the first place.
So be it. If your ego is more important than the truth... you win.
Ultimately, I will never find agreement with libertarians. I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum. I'd happily pay far more taxes, if the end result was a better society.
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With ravine, shriek'd against his creed
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