RE: Why is the sin nature inherited?
September 16, 2012 at 3:14 pm
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2012 at 3:15 pm by Cinjin.)
(September 13, 2012 at 11:53 pm)Drich Wrote: Free Will as you know it as it orginated in a greek philosphy, is not a biblical concept.
Well this is a quite a bit of a half truth to say the least. While admittedly the words free will are not in the bible, neither are the words rapture, trinity, or predestination. However the free will concept has long been established and accepted by mainstream christianity and to say it hasn't is just blatantly dishonest. Such scripture references as: Joshua 24:15, Isaiah 65:12, Proverbs 8:10, II Corinthians 9:7, even John 3:16 among dozens of others give substantial credence to the idea of what christians defend as "free will."
Quote:We do not have any choice outside of staying seperated from God or returning home to Him. this is your only choice.
You're getting closer to total honesty with this one. There is NO choice ... no addendums, no "outside of ... whatever". There is NO choice when you serve your god.
Of course in other countries/communities you may very well be beaten to death for holding such blasphemous ideas and serving the false god.
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Quote: It is in this one choice that You have 'free will' to choose your eternal fate. The fact that you are a slave to sin proves you do not have free will as the greek philosphy describes it.
"Your lack of a choice IS your choice."
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A slave to sin ... that's hilarious because what you call sin is what an educated man calls natural inheritance and genetic programming. Are we slaves to our natural programming?
Sure why not. I'm not about to villanize nature for wanting to enjoy my life. I also don't blame a duck for wanting to swim in the water.
But hey, back on track to my original point.
You wrote: "If Man Was not Meant to Fall then there would not have been a Tree of Knoweledge!!!!!!!!!!"
You openly admit that god created the world and everyone in it, knowing full well that he would then tempt his little humans to commit something that he created, but apparently doesn't like. The temptation successful, god would then be required to sacrifice himself to himself in order to save a small handful of them from a place that he created for everyone who doesn't "choose" to love and obey him. ...oh wait, and then on top of all of this lunacy, your god justified it all by telling you that it's YOUR choice and not his ... as if he was somehow required to create this entire system.
The fact that you believe this makes you not only a fool but also a hypocrite. Why a hypocrite?
Because if someone from another religion came and told you this EXACT same premise you would laugh at him and tell him he was an imbecile.
To forum readers:
I really don't think it's a question of understanding it. They just cannot and will not let go of the baby blanket their parents/teachers/pastors are actually choking them with.