(September 20, 2012 at 7:07 am)Tobie Wrote: The logic that applies to an obviously man made grouping of rocks (the creation of which is very probably documented) does not apply to the universe.
Why? I can (when I get home) provide information that seems pretty clear to indicate intelligent design on the part of our universe. The fine tuning of the initial conditions of our universe to support life is simply incredible.
(September 20, 2012 at 7:07 am)Tobie Wrote: Most atheists (the ones on here at least) won't claim explicitly that the universe is as it is due to unguided processes, just that this explanation is the best one science has.
The ones I've encountered are extremely commited to evolution. I've often seen/heard it referred to as "the fact of evolution."
(September 20, 2012 at 7:07 am)Tobie Wrote: What you've done here is create a strawman for atheism as a whole.
What part is the stawman? The rocks? Or is it evolution? I agree that I am calling into the implications of evolution. If you do not adhere to evolution this line of thought is void.