(September 20, 2012 at 10:54 am)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote:(September 20, 2012 at 7:07 am)Tobie Wrote: The logic that applies to an obviously man made grouping of rocks (the creation of which is very probably documented) does not apply to the universe.
Why? I can (when I get home) provide information that seems pretty clear to indicate intelligent design on the part of our universe. The fine tuning of the initial conditions of our universe to support life is simply incredible.
What makes you think life is so incredible? Perhaps if things were a little different, the universe would have produced something vastly more incredible than life as we know it?
Given that the vast majority of the universe is made up of empty space, gas, black holes, etc. it doesn't seem that the life was intentional at all. There's no point to making such a vast universe completely hostile to life. The universe could be said to be more finely tuned to produce black holes than life.
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
