(September 20, 2012 at 10:54 am)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: [quote='Tobie' pid='339023' dateline='1348139258']
The logic that applies to an obviously man made grouping of rocks (the creation of which is very probably documented) does not apply to the universe.
(September 20, 2012 at 10:54 am)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: Why? I can (when I get home) provide information that seems pretty clear to indicate intelligent design on the part of our universe.
There is a Nobel prize with your name on it if you can.
(September 20, 2012 at 10:54 am)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: The fine tuning of the initial conditions of our universe to support life is simply incredible.
You know, I once saw this weird shaped glass which was triangular at the bottom, circular in the middle and square at the top. And it was filled with ice!!! I wonder where they'd found the ice of that exact shape to fit into the glass.
(September 20, 2012 at 10:54 am)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: The ones I've encountered are extremely commited to evolution. I've often seen/heard it referred to as "the fact of evolution."
That might have something to do with the fact that it is a fact.
(September 20, 2012 at 10:54 am)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: What part is the stawman? The rocks? Or is it evolution? I agree that I am calling into the implications of evolution. If you do not adhere to evolution this line of thought is void.
The comparison to rocks is a strawman.