RE: Fundamentalist Trekkies....
September 21, 2012 at 12:25 am
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2012 at 12:28 am by Tea Earl Grey Hot.)
(September 20, 2012 at 2:14 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:(September 20, 2012 at 2:01 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: The Nero/Spock incident happened at least a decade after Voyager got back to Earth. Perhaps Romulan intel got access to it? I don't know. This is all just nit picky criticism. Nothing major.
Major enough. None of the canon would support your claims.
It doesn't really contradict the canon either. And so what if it did? It's such a minor issue. You might as well start shouting "canon!" if the new Scotty and Kirk don't end up fat in 20 years.
Quote:The only thing you have, for the public, is some comic book shat out by some turds who decided it was better to rewrite Star Trek.
They made Spock an emotional cripple, instead of the Vulcan equivalent of a Dahar master.
Again, this is a much younger Spock. A Spock who's half human and just watched his whole planet get destroyed along with his mother. He also grew up with racism and discrimination because of him being half human.
Quote:They made the entire bridge crew, to which there is a military standard of protocol, become a bunch of passive bystanders instead of the active and questioning group offered in TOS.
The whole ship was made up of people fresh out of Starfleet because of the emergency situation. And as I said, bystander effect.
Quote:Quote:What does the fact that it's from Enterprise have to do with anything? What does the STD thing have to do with anything?
Only to illustrate T'Pal lost control of her emotions due to P'anar syndrome.
Just like Sarek lost control of his emotions due to Bendii Syndrome.
So, in other words, you're gonna hand wave away everything we have seen about Vulcans, in favor of Spock outrageously assaulting (and nearly killing!) Kirk.
The Vulcans can be very much controlled by their emotions.
I will quote Memory Alpha:
Quote:Culturally one of the most fascinating species in the Federation, the Vulcans were once an extremely violent and emotional people (even by Earth standards) who waged almost constant warfare on one another. (TOS: "Balance of Terror") They believed in a variety of gods, such as war, peace and death. (TNG: "Gambit, Part II") As their level of technology improved, the Vulcans eventually reached a point where their violent nature threatened species extinction. (ENT: "Awakening")
Surak, father of Vulcan logic
In an effort to avoid this fate, a Vulcan named Surak developed a new philosophy thereby igniting the Time of Awakening. Surak maintained that the root cause of all the problems on Vulcan lay in the uncontrolled outpouring of the people's emotions. His followers swore to live their lives by an ethical system devised by Surak and based purely on logical principles. Emotions were to be controlled and repressed. (TAS: "Yesteryear")
Quote:(September 20, 2012 at 2:01 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: None of the supposed violations of canon are significant anyways.
No, certainly not.
Certainly not over 10 years of established story lines, character development in all the other series.
Certainly not the character development and adventures from Star Trek I to V...
Nope. Nothing of significant has been lost, you must be absolutely correct....
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How many times do I have to explain this? This is a new timeline! Nothing has been "lost." That's part of the old timeline.
(September 20, 2012 at 3:11 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: WTF was the deal with the whole Spock/Uhura matchup? That doesn't really fit the Vulcan nature, given what we learned about them from that Pan-Fahr episode.
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First of all, Spock is half human. T'Pol was in a romantic relationship with Trip on ENT anyway so nothing new.
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).