(September 21, 2012 at 3:25 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It doesn't matter what the state of the original universe is, because these small parts are existing now. My argument wasn't about what the universe was but what it is. Independent existence simply seems to me to be rich in existence, and that it would have no reason to have a limit. But all parts in the universe are not all ultimate, they are limited.
You didn't name any limits to the universe itself - just the limits of some of its parts.