RE: There is no god or gods!
September 25, 2012 at 12:08 am
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2012 at 12:54 am by IATIA.)
(September 23, 2012 at 3:01 pm)Dranu Wrote: God (of the philosophers), by definition is the I AM or the infinite being. Infinite means to lack limits, therefore God cannot admit of contradiction, and therefore is necessarily possible.
Debating the existence of god is really for a different thread and not what I was looking for here. It would be impossible for god to be infinite and anything less means it's not a god.
As to the elephant, can you prove 100% there is no elephant in your house? You can show there is no elephant, but short of that, how could you prove it?
(September 24, 2012 at 12:52 pm)Tiberius Wrote: "I don't know" is the only logical answer, given our human fallibility.
I don't understand why "maybe" and "maybe not" are separate options though.
A direction of tendency or favor for those that so desire. There is a difference between the two.
(September 23, 2012 at 4:50 pm)Darkstar Wrote: A better example would be Russel's teapot.
Thanks for that input. Though I have spent time on different forums and done significant reading of same, I had not seen that referenced before. Basically it is the same premise as the 'Pink Unicorn' (which I would still prefer when dealing with the truly deluded, but for the more interested, I will have to this in mind.).
(September 24, 2012 at 1:02 pm)frankiej Wrote: I find that "I do not care" works for me.
An absolutely acceptable answer, but it does beg the question of one's participation in an atheist forum.
(September 24, 2012 at 12:52 pm)Tiberius Wrote: "I don't know" is the only logical answer, given our human fallibility.
I disagree.
(September 24, 2012 at 1:10 pm)Darkstar Wrote: I technically can't know 100%, but it's more like 99.9%.It seems to me that something as powerful and awesome as a true god (not the tyrant from the babble book or any other) would be easy to spot. I did not. It does not exist.
(September 24, 2012 at 1:10 pm)Darkstar Wrote: If scientists can dismiss the mass of an electron as zero, I can dismiss the probability of god's existence as zero.
On one hand they say mass and energy are interchangeable then they start playing with their formulas.
(September 23, 2012 at 4:37 pm)Dranu Wrote: Now I will add there is certain proof God exists, but thats off-topic obviously.
If you could prove there was a god, then this thread would become moot along with this main focus of this forum. However, there is no proof for a god that does not include a violation of logic. Generally it treats an assumption or two as a fact.
Open a thread and I will gladly participate.
(September 24, 2012 at 5:04 pm)Ben Davis Wrote: So was the generality deliberate in order to trigger particular discussions (e.g. identify those who overstate claims) or was it just a slip of the keyboard?
The god I am referring to is the omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient creator of everything from universes to strings. The head god, god number one. Obviously, anything less is irrelevant.
Quote:You all killed the Father. You all ate his flesh. So who is the new Father? Who is God Number One? Who should they obey?
Catholicism?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
