(September 25, 2012 at 7:37 pm)Dranu Wrote: Nah, I'm not that interested to, but would gladly join in it if anyone else really wants to (just let me know).
Title it something like 'Why the Oh-so-amazing-wonderful Ontological Argument is Valid and Sound'
My bold.
I see your point. That argument fails on so many levels that it would be a waste of time.
Let us get back on track. Take "Russell's teapot" for example. I can send a satellite up and verify it's existence or not. A 'true believer' however, will insist that the satellite was in the wrong orbit to observe it or used the wrong equipment. Maybe the satellite was arbitrarily at the same speed? Set the satellite to random bursts of speed to compensate, then the 'true believer' will say the 'teapot' affected the orbital speed to remain undetected. Etc., etc., ad nauseam.
Check this
Quote:The authorities expect you to simply take at their word the absurd and unfounded story that there is a large mass orbiting the earth. Obviously we are expected to be mere sheep, going along with whatever the Thought Police would tell us. However, when one looks at THE FACTS, in an atmosphere free from bias and academic repression, one sees a very different story.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
