RE: There is no god or gods!
October 1, 2012 at 6:12 pm
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2012 at 6:12 pm by Dranu.)
(September 30, 2012 at 12:15 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: 1) What caused the First Cause i.e. God?Absolutely agreed to #2, but I never yet said it does. I am only arguing the natural theology God (deism tends to make a claim of inactivity, so I am not willign to go that far either at least here).
2) How does it logically follow that a 'First Cause' must be:
>a divine being
>caring as opposed to apathetic after creation
>identified with none other than Jesus Christ of 'Nazareth'
As to 1, it may assist you to think of the Cosmological argument not as proving the first cause but simply saying all things require a reason (i.e. the universe isn't just magically so). If something (including the universe) explains itself sufficiently, then it needs no cause. An infninite being explains its own existence (there is no logical need to inquire why intrinsically non-contingent beings exist).