RE: Syrian civil war, conclusions and solutions
October 4, 2012 at 4:03 pm
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2012 at 4:06 pm by cratehorus.)
(October 4, 2012 at 3:14 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: I do believe Turkey should invade Syria.I beleive NATO should invade
Quote:Turkey to me is the bright shining star of the middle east.We must not be talking about the same middle east
Quote:It`s a secular Republic, it`s constitution and laws are not made on the basis of religious texts, it`s economic groath is amazing, it`s human rights issues (although still existing) are getting less by the yearyou could say the same about Iran
Quote:and it has abolished the death penalty.so does Cambodia and Rwanda, don't you find it strange a country that once had mandatory death panalties for dozens of crimes will just "abolish" the death penalty one fine sunday morning??
Quote:I was thrilled when Recep Erdogan, who is a islamist, spoke at thair square after the egyptian revolution and clearly said that what egypt needs now is not a religious state but a secular republic.Why? lol.......... is the german media telling people erdogan is the main reason the arab spring didn't result in muslim theocracy?
Quote:In the current syrian conflict, the hole left, when no one supported the rebells was filled with Saudi money and Saudi idiology. The place is fludded with salafists of the worst kind.That's just SAUDI'S............ being Saudi's, muslims know how Saudi's act (most travel there once a year after all)there's plenty of money, and guns coming from everywhere, anyway.
Quote:To make things eaven worse the conflict has changed, from a conflict wich was about deposing a tyrant to a secterian\ethnical conflict; sunis, shias, alawites, salafists, kurds, christains are currently fighting each other or with each other.I don't see this at all? there has always been a conflict against the Alawites because they're the ruling class, and a self-declared master race.
Quote:Eaven if Assad will be deposed I fear a Youguslavia war scenaro, in wich the most powerfull faction will start massacring the smaller weaker ones.absolutely not, if it didn't happen in Egypt then it wont happen in Syria, you can't compare yugoslavia to anything....... yugoslavia is special
Quote: So eaven if Assad is deposed, a foreign military mission would probably be necessery to prevent a reigniting conflict between ethnicities and sects.agreed, but which one, the Turks are no better equipped than Suadi Arabia or Isreal, for that matter.
Quote:Why Turkey? First of, because it can. It is a Nato member, therefor has modern military equiptment. It has been fighting insurgents for years aswell as training for a possible war with greece - therefor is expirienced."new member" of NATO. turkey looks nice, but it's people are still as hate filled as they were during the war....... and why are yhey training to fight greece, btw?
Quote:Second turkish troops wouldn`t be met with as much resistance as western troops.not true if anything it would be worse, turks are neighbors they have just as much unreasonable hatred, for their neighbors, as your people do, for your wonderful neighbors in Poland
Quote:third Turkey as a secular Republic would be a great rolemodel for the middle east.yeah a 99% muslim nation doesn't have much of a need to wory about secularism, also "secular state" doesn't mean much Liberia, and Kazakhstan are secular as well
Quote:I believe the argument, that we would help islamists by not intercepting is invalid, since the islamist salafists would get power anyway when Assad is deposed, and if Assad remains in power he will be nothing but a pupet of islamist Iran.most people who rant about the islamist salfists taking over don't care about the conflict and would just as soon nuke all of Syria as their "final solution" you know the one they've been trained from birth to believe in
Anyway, not that I think it will happen, but the best way for the FSA to stop this war is to attack this building http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_nav..._in_Tartus it's very unlikely, it would be destroyed without bloodshed, but it would force NATO to kill assad