An argument from basis.

[Mystic]

Do you mean to give an example of anything that is objectively honourable or do you mean to give a whole description of it or do you want me to define it?

Yes. At all... If you don't mind anyway. It would help me to understand.

Well I think it's a bit trickier then a I thought. The reason is because it's good to be honourable, and it's honourable to be good.

Let's see to better define it, it's that honour gives us insight to the exalted side of morality. For example, we talk about (objective) morality, and it's more about what is right or wrong. We talk about what is more honourable, and it's the same thing, except this time we are looking at from perspective of it's exalted aspect and sort of sacred dimension to it. But I would say certain moral acts have more of the "honour" dimension to it. So in this sense it can't be said goodnesss = honor and honour = goodness despite the fact that it's good to be honorable and honorable to be good. Also the more exalted the intention (spirit behind the action), the more honourable the act is.

Yeah it's true I've presupposed and intuited it to be true and such has been since a child till now. I have not and never will doubt the existence of objective morality, greatness, and honour. It's been a properly basic knowledge since a child till now.

Sure, I get that. The problem is in demonstrating that it's true.

Sure it can not be by an argument. But does it have to be? This presupposing that we don't have knowledge of objective morality, honour, and greatness, and that it needs proof. But the nature of these things are that of a properly basic experience of the self. Just because it can't demonstrated it's true by an argument, doesn't mean it can't be known.