RE: Democracy ..... over-rated?
October 7, 2012 at 9:33 am
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2012 at 9:59 am by cratehorus.)
(October 7, 2012 at 3:15 am)Ryantology Wrote: make sure that his popularity maintains a certain level, in the form of a more standardized system of polling throughout the entire year,
"polls" should be outlawed
(October 7, 2012 at 1:07 am)Tiberius Wrote: A person being so popular that nobody can run against them is a great reason to keep them in power.Originally (in america atleast) term limits started, because FDR ended the great depression, and strangled hitler with his bare hands, all while secretly being a cripple, with polio. The official argument was "no matter what FDR did, the events that surrounded his presidency made him more popular than he deserved to be" (think george bush jr september 11th 2001)
Quote: I don't think I've ever said I hated FDR; I don't really know much about the guy to know if I hate him or not.you said were libertarian so I just presumed, sorry
Quote:However, my opinion of him has nothing to do with whether or not the rest of the country believes he is a good enough man for the job.I agree, because there is no one man, that can cause enormous amounts of change, all by himself, no matter how charismatic or devious he might be. One myth I've always hated was that if it wasn't for hitler (all by himself) WW2 would have never happened, the german military propped this man up, I doubt, he was even their first pick for "fuhrer"........ same thing with Joseph Stalin, or George Washington, or Sarah Palin, they merely represented a large group of people that existed whether you "like it or not"
Quote:I've said this time and time again, but fairness in elections matters more than the result of the election itself.I agree, again even though it's a little fatalistic, or karma-tastic for an atheist. I do believe no leader, can be a bad leader.
Quote:That is why I voted for AV in the UK, even though my party voted against it, and stats showed that my party would most likely lose seats if AV was implemented. AV is a fairer voting system than FPTP, so if my party lose seats with it, all it shows is that they should not have had those seats in the first place.the bottom line is, things like term limits, jerrymandering, or the electoral college, are distractions. Here in america, congressman have no term limits, yet the office of President does?......... and every country has their own strange, seemingly, nonsensical rules. Right wingers and left wingers can abuse these systems equally (or rather right and left wingers can complain about how the other is using the system against them.) but in reality very, very little change can come from altering, re-writing, or reorganizing these systems