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An argument from basis.
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RE: An argument from basis.
(October 7, 2012 at 2:19 pm)Annik Wrote: That's because it's subjective (like beauty).

When it comes to taste, something can taste good to us but not for others, and we would be fine with that.

When it comes to morality/honor, we often get upset by others people view of morality/honor, when strongly disagree. We don't just say it's different taste.

When it comes to what we find beautiful, we may have different taste, but there is a unifying factor as well.

The point I'm making is that humans naturally believe in objective morality, while understanding taste can be subjective.

My belief about taste and beauty also is that sometimes we are blind to what others see of beauty or how something tastes good to us, because we are not adjusted to it. I would say there is a basis for our taste as well. And because none of us are perfectly adjusted with objective reality, we experience things through our own subjective view which has a link to objective reality, but isn't totally in line with that.

In this case, there is all sorts of beauty, in animals, in nature, it's a different thing if we appreciate it or not.

Different races obviously had their subjective view of beauty and evolution tended to favor that view of beauty, and so I don't think one race is better looking then another.

There is just different types of beauty, and we realize we have preferences. The preferences are not objective and are naturally going to subjective, the same is true of a lot of what we perceive of honour and morality, but there is a lot of perception in which we realize it's not really without basis.

Another thing to say is that perhaps it can be argued that beauty/taste can be without basis (perhaps it can be, perhaps it can't be), it's simple is an experience, but can the same thing be said about morality/honour? If it is without basis, then the whole experience is definitely flawed and a delusion, unlike that of taste, but honor/morality to be not a delusional experience must have some sort of link with the objective.

(October 8, 2012 at 1:23 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Honour is cultural to an even greater degree than morality.

Is culture all built on an subjective delusion?
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An argument from basis. - by MysticKnight - October 6, 2012 at 4:35 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by MysticKnight - October 6, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Haydn - October 6, 2012 at 5:11 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Brian37 - October 6, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by JosephBowie - October 26, 2012 at 9:23 am
RE: An argument from basis. - by Annik - October 6, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Brian37 - October 6, 2012 at 6:22 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by MysticKnight - October 6, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Jackalope - October 6, 2012 at 7:16 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by MysticKnight - October 6, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Jackalope - October 6, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by MysticKnight - October 6, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Jackalope - October 6, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Haydn - October 6, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Annik - October 6, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by MysticKnight - October 6, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Annik - October 6, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Jackalope - October 6, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by MysticKnight - October 6, 2012 at 8:50 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Annik - October 6, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Jackalope - October 6, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by IATIA - October 6, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by MysticKnight - October 7, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Annik - October 7, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by MysticKnight - October 8, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Annik - October 8, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by downbeatplumb - October 8, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by genkaus - October 8, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Rhizomorph13 - October 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by Ryantology - October 16, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: An argument from basis. - by liam - October 18, 2012 at 8:01 pm

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