Well the issue whether morality/beauty/glory/honour is ALL subjective, I can't argue with that. Also, this sort of topic is mystic/spiritual in nature. If you are going to deny we have soul/spirit...then I can't argue with that. If you are going to say it's impossible that we get any knowledge of ultimate beauty because all beauty is subjective or wrong to label God as beautiful because beauty is subjective, then again, we have different views of what beauty is.
We eat different foods with different taste, and we call many of them "pleasurable" tastes. At the same time, we call sex pleasurable as well as playing sports. This all fine, but if a person talks about higher spiritual pleasures, it is assumed it's all together of a different nature. However, to me, it seems there is a world of multiplicity and a world of unity (God), and there is relationship between the two, in which God is the Ultimate form of all positive aspects without their polar negative aspects. The relationship is essential to give a basis to our experience and other experiences of different life forms.
I can't prove this. It's not to be argued by an argument from my point of view. It's rather to be witnessed. God is Ultimate Value, and all value descends from him. This perspective cannot be argued from, because a person can even deny the existence of "value" saying it's all a subjective delusion.
Likewise, a person can dismiss beauty as a delusion. And it cannot be argued for. At the end, this is all very personal.
But let me say this. When we are proud of ourselves, we do so believing we have value and praise. If it's all subjective, then it is totally a delusion. On the other hand, if we have a ball park subjective experience that has some sort of relationship with the objective reality (God), then it's not a delusion.
The question is why do nihilist have pride? You see it seems like they are intellectual convinced all praise/value is non-existent, yet they are proud of whom they are.
This tells me they have two opposing beliefs within them.
We eat different foods with different taste, and we call many of them "pleasurable" tastes. At the same time, we call sex pleasurable as well as playing sports. This all fine, but if a person talks about higher spiritual pleasures, it is assumed it's all together of a different nature. However, to me, it seems there is a world of multiplicity and a world of unity (God), and there is relationship between the two, in which God is the Ultimate form of all positive aspects without their polar negative aspects. The relationship is essential to give a basis to our experience and other experiences of different life forms.
I can't prove this. It's not to be argued by an argument from my point of view. It's rather to be witnessed. God is Ultimate Value, and all value descends from him. This perspective cannot be argued from, because a person can even deny the existence of "value" saying it's all a subjective delusion.
Likewise, a person can dismiss beauty as a delusion. And it cannot be argued for. At the end, this is all very personal.
But let me say this. When we are proud of ourselves, we do so believing we have value and praise. If it's all subjective, then it is totally a delusion. On the other hand, if we have a ball park subjective experience that has some sort of relationship with the objective reality (God), then it's not a delusion.
The question is why do nihilist have pride? You see it seems like they are intellectual convinced all praise/value is non-existent, yet they are proud of whom they are.
This tells me they have two opposing beliefs within them.
