[quote='thesummerqueen' pid='353388' dateline='1351095944']
[quote]First paragraph: that kind of shit is the reason I hate a lot of Christianity. It is a false humility, no matter what you cloak it in. [/quote]
Seriously? this is an example of false humility how?
[quote]Give it to me straight.[/quote]You have it straight, bad grammar, mispelled words and all. I am not faking any of this. this is the best I can do without help from another source.
[quote] Your argument stands on its own or falls[/quote]Indeed it does, so judge the content of what was said, and don't look to try and determine the measure of humility you think I am putting into a post.
[quote]- otherwise you demean the rest of us by pretending we need to feel superior in some way,[/quote]It's Just an observation. If it does not apply to you personally, then do not apply it to you. Otherwise know it is next to impossiable for you to speak for everyone else (accuratly.) Just look at what the guy who posted after you put. You may not like what I have observed and posted, but it does not make it any less accurate. Why not let my "Arguement stand or fall on it own merrit," rather than try and dismiss the whole effort simply because you do not like what was said?
[quote] and it makes YOU feel better because you're essentially talking down to us[/quote]i told you that I was actually diagnoised with several learning disablities while in school. after being accused me of having them. So tell me again how is it I was talking down to you? I was the one being talked down to, and verified what was said.
[quote] instead of demanding we act as your perceived equals. [/quote]How can I if I am lacking? Do i bring you down to where I am? Or do I lie and say I have the same skill set as you do? Even when I was spell checking and pouring over my grammar I was still being called out by people like Shelby. How could I ever hope to equal the writting ablity of a published author?
The only thing I have done that you all would never do is turn into my weakness and embrace it and use what this soceity preceives as a weakness as a tool to push further than i could in a conversation on conventional terms. (Where everyone postures to be way smarter than they really are.)
[quote]There are those of us who don't believe in outright dismissing Christians. I was going to let you off the hook for having poor spelling and grammar habits because some people simply suck at it (even though Word is pretty easy to use) [/quote]I spend 15 to 20 hours aweek researching and writting posts. I normally spend as much time correcting spelling and fussing over grammar. I have a full time job, and a family. How much more do you say is required of me? is 15 hours is not enough? Do you really need more or are you trying to take away from the other things I do? Let me rephrase. Does my misspelled words keep you from accepting Christ? Or are their other reasons you can not accept Jesus as you Lord and savior?
[quote]the second paragraph: we would prefer grammatically correct posts and proper spelling to ensure proper communication. It's one less excuse from us, as we won't be able to say we don't understand you, and makes you look a hell of a lot more intelligent. [/quote]
This is indeed a big crock. Because the level of comperhension need to form the indepth rebuttals I Always seem to get, show without any doubt that those i speak with have no issue deriving meaning from my posts. Misspelled words and bad grammar included.
It seems to me that you are actually upset because you thought you knew how the 'great Oz' worked and then I pulled back the curtain on you, and threw what you thought you knew into the garbage.
In otherwords from my silence I allowed you and anyone like you to build a 'profile' of me based on the superfical BS you guys have used time and again as a trump card to end an arguement that you can not otherwise close. Which again not wanting to provoke anyone to wrath I allowed my honest and true short commings to be used as a sacerfical lamb anyone can turn to, to dismiss the body of my efforts.
In my industry we have pressure relief valves. These valves open/fail at a given pressure so the whole system does not explode. Again before I installed these 'relief valves' into my posts members here and on other sites would "explode." On AF.com one such explosion got me bann for life. Here it members put me on ignore lists, and I got repermanded by the mods. Since the relief valve was installed and people have a legitmate flaw they can go to, to either dismiss or make themselves feel better about what was said in a given post, the worst that happens is some name calling, and damage to my personal pride. Which to me is a small price to pay to answer your questions.
I have been nothing but honest and open here on this site. I have answer every question thrown at me and clarified any speculation or confusion when I see it. If you did not want to see the man behind the curtain then you should not have created a situation where clarity was needed.
[quote]First paragraph: that kind of shit is the reason I hate a lot of Christianity. It is a false humility, no matter what you cloak it in. [/quote]
Seriously? this is an example of false humility how? [quote]Give it to me straight.[/quote]You have it straight, bad grammar, mispelled words and all. I am not faking any of this. this is the best I can do without help from another source.
[quote] Your argument stands on its own or falls[/quote]Indeed it does, so judge the content of what was said, and don't look to try and determine the measure of humility you think I am putting into a post.
[quote]- otherwise you demean the rest of us by pretending we need to feel superior in some way,[/quote]It's Just an observation. If it does not apply to you personally, then do not apply it to you. Otherwise know it is next to impossiable for you to speak for everyone else (accuratly.) Just look at what the guy who posted after you put. You may not like what I have observed and posted, but it does not make it any less accurate. Why not let my "Arguement stand or fall on it own merrit," rather than try and dismiss the whole effort simply because you do not like what was said?
[quote] and it makes YOU feel better because you're essentially talking down to us[/quote]i told you that I was actually diagnoised with several learning disablities while in school. after being accused me of having them. So tell me again how is it I was talking down to you? I was the one being talked down to, and verified what was said.
[quote] instead of demanding we act as your perceived equals. [/quote]How can I if I am lacking? Do i bring you down to where I am? Or do I lie and say I have the same skill set as you do? Even when I was spell checking and pouring over my grammar I was still being called out by people like Shelby. How could I ever hope to equal the writting ablity of a published author?
The only thing I have done that you all would never do is turn into my weakness and embrace it and use what this soceity preceives as a weakness as a tool to push further than i could in a conversation on conventional terms. (Where everyone postures to be way smarter than they really are.)
[quote]There are those of us who don't believe in outright dismissing Christians. I was going to let you off the hook for having poor spelling and grammar habits because some people simply suck at it (even though Word is pretty easy to use) [/quote]I spend 15 to 20 hours aweek researching and writting posts. I normally spend as much time correcting spelling and fussing over grammar. I have a full time job, and a family. How much more do you say is required of me? is 15 hours is not enough? Do you really need more or are you trying to take away from the other things I do? Let me rephrase. Does my misspelled words keep you from accepting Christ? Or are their other reasons you can not accept Jesus as you Lord and savior?
[quote]the second paragraph: we would prefer grammatically correct posts and proper spelling to ensure proper communication. It's one less excuse from us, as we won't be able to say we don't understand you, and makes you look a hell of a lot more intelligent. [/quote]
This is indeed a big crock. Because the level of comperhension need to form the indepth rebuttals I Always seem to get, show without any doubt that those i speak with have no issue deriving meaning from my posts. Misspelled words and bad grammar included.
It seems to me that you are actually upset because you thought you knew how the 'great Oz' worked and then I pulled back the curtain on you, and threw what you thought you knew into the garbage.
In otherwords from my silence I allowed you and anyone like you to build a 'profile' of me based on the superfical BS you guys have used time and again as a trump card to end an arguement that you can not otherwise close. Which again not wanting to provoke anyone to wrath I allowed my honest and true short commings to be used as a sacerfical lamb anyone can turn to, to dismiss the body of my efforts.
In my industry we have pressure relief valves. These valves open/fail at a given pressure so the whole system does not explode. Again before I installed these 'relief valves' into my posts members here and on other sites would "explode." On AF.com one such explosion got me bann for life. Here it members put me on ignore lists, and I got repermanded by the mods. Since the relief valve was installed and people have a legitmate flaw they can go to, to either dismiss or make themselves feel better about what was said in a given post, the worst that happens is some name calling, and damage to my personal pride. Which to me is a small price to pay to answer your questions.
I have been nothing but honest and open here on this site. I have answer every question thrown at me and clarified any speculation or confusion when I see it. If you did not want to see the man behind the curtain then you should not have created a situation where clarity was needed.
