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Christian Nation
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RE: Christian Nation
(October 27, 2012 at 2:25 am)chi pan Wrote: Hello, i would like to present evidence that the United States were founded by Christian principles and though they did not want religion to rule this nation, they wanted it's leaders to be guided by Christian morals and it's people free to express their religion whatever it may be.

I dought that, but what if? Honestly. This is one major thing I dont understand about you americans.
Your nation was founded as a democracy, and yeah it is and was a importent step in the ongoing process of making progress for mankind. But it was only a step.
Some of your founding fathers thought slavery was alright and maybe eaven had slaves. Some of them actualy were convinced racists such as Benjamin Franklin.
At first your constitution only gave men who owned property the right to vote.

Do you see my problem here?
Why should it be importent what people back then thought was best for the world when today we have completly different problems.
Todays world is a more progressive and tolerant world, which has learned lessons out of mistakes in history.
There is no "golden" unchangeing standerd to run a nation. One has to learn out of mistakes and disregard what doesnt work.

Germany was founded as a christian nation, as the "Holy Roman Empire of Germany" to be precice. A nation which was seen as the protector of christianity and Rome and therefor brutaly inforced Christianity in eastern european Lithuenia, thereby slaugthering thousands of Poles, and taking a lead rule in almoust every crusade throughout the medieval era.

Now gues why we dont live up to these "principles" which founded our nation anymore.
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Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 27, 2012 at 2:25 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Gilgamesh - October 27, 2012 at 2:47 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Welsh cake - October 27, 2012 at 3:05 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Minimalist - October 27, 2012 at 3:07 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Something completely different - October 27, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: Christian Nation - by KichigaiNeko - October 27, 2012 at 4:13 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Darkstar - October 27, 2012 at 3:09 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Killman - October 27, 2012 at 5:00 am
RE: Christian Nation - by IATIA - October 27, 2012 at 10:33 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Godschild - October 27, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by IATIA - October 27, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Polaris - October 27, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Something completely different - October 27, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by pocaracas - October 27, 2012 at 12:28 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Polaris - October 27, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Something completely different - October 27, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Darkstar - October 27, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Ryantology - October 27, 2012 at 4:10 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Polaris - October 27, 2012 at 4:26 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Darkstar - October 27, 2012 at 4:37 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Rev. Rye - October 27, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Faith No More - October 27, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - October 27, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Doubting_Thomas - October 27, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 27, 2012 at 9:03 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Spectrum - October 27, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Minimalist - October 27, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 27, 2012 at 11:29 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Darkstar - October 27, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 27, 2012 at 11:43 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Cyberman - October 28, 2012 at 8:40 am
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 28, 2012 at 8:54 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Ryantology - October 27, 2012 at 11:48 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 27, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Darkstar - October 28, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Ryantology - October 28, 2012 at 1:33 am
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 28, 2012 at 2:06 am
RE: Christian Nation - by cratehorus - October 28, 2012 at 12:26 am
RE: Christian Nation - by cratehorus - October 28, 2012 at 3:08 am
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 28, 2012 at 8:23 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - October 28, 2012 at 3:17 am
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 28, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Rev. Rye - October 28, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 28, 2012 at 9:26 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Darkstar - October 28, 2012 at 9:28 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 29, 2012 at 1:29 am
RE: Christian Nation - by IATIA - October 29, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Minimalist - October 31, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Utracia - October 28, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by JohnDG - October 29, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by IATIA - October 29, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by JohnDG - October 29, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by IATIA - October 29, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 29, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Rev. Rye - October 29, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Darkstar - October 29, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - October 29, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - October 29, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 30, 2012 at 4:10 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - October 30, 2012 at 5:02 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Darkstar - October 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 31, 2012 at 7:52 am
RE: Christian Nation - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2012 at 9:06 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - October 30, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - October 30, 2012 at 3:18 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by JohnDG - October 30, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 7:59 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Something completely different - October 31, 2012 at 8:01 am
RE: Christian Nation - by chi pan - October 31, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - October 31, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: Christian Nation - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 8:20 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - October 31, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: Christian Nation - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 8:26 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - October 31, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: Christian Nation - by IATIA - November 1, 2012 at 2:33 am
RE: Christian Nation - by KichigaiNeko - November 1, 2012 at 2:40 am
RE: Christian Nation - by Angrboda - November 1, 2012 at 2:45 am
RE: Christian Nation - by KichigaiNeko - November 1, 2012 at 2:47 am

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