RE: Christian Nation
October 27, 2012 at 9:03 pm
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2012 at 9:07 pm by chi pan.)
no particular denomination, that's the point. like i said, the nation does not favor any specific denomination. but we were founded as a christian nation tolerant to all religions.
Minimalist Wrote:The words "god", "jesus", christ, and "christian" do not appear in the constitution. So much for your xtian horseshit.true, but it has in the year of our lord on it.
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Gilgamesh Wrote:Basically, you said "The founding fathers were christians and this proves they wanted the nation to be guided by christian morals." Where's the reasoning there?the fact that the founding fathers established church services in the capitol building proves that.
Gilgamesh Wrote:Anyway, even if the founders did want the nation to be guided by christian morals; so, what? I hope you're not insinuating that the leaders of a nation should adhere to the demands of the founders of the nation for no reason other than because they're the founders. It doesn't matter who's saying it; it matters only what's being said.i'm saying the court case that established seperation of church was bogus because it's not what the founding fathers intended as was argued at the cases. they took the term out of context from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Association made it out to mean something Thomas Jefferson never meant it to mean.
Gilgamesh Wrote:Also, why does the phrase "In god we trust" have to refer to the christian god?well that's what they meant when they wrote it. you can argue the meaning of the word but not the intent of the writer.
The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:Your nation was founded as a democracy, and yeah it is and was a importent step in the ongoing process of making progress for mankind. But it was only a step.actually founded as a republic. but anyways, i'm not saying all their principles were right. but it's stupid to say it was the founder's intent in the legal proceedings to establish the seperation of church and state as we see it today when it clearly wasn't. they can't make that arguement and say "so what?" when they're proven wrong. do you see the problem here?
Some of your founding fathers thought slavery was alright and maybe eaven had slaves. Some of them actualy were convinced racists such as Benjamin Franklin.
At first your constitution only gave men who owned property the right to vote.
KichigaiNeko Wrote:Repetitive chippy....we already have a thread on this don't we?a little from a deviation off a topic. but i wanted to formally address it.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem
