Do you support the legalisation of polyagmy and polyandry

[Violet]

Well, here is the thing. Why is copy right there? It's for the well being of society. There is consequences to society as a whole without copy right.

I believe you meant, "to choke out innovation and to slow progress in the protection of a monopoly." Because honestly... I cannot see a good reason for copyright to exist for longer than *one* (nonrenewable) year.

But people seem to focus on "physical" or "material" well being only. I think spiritual well being of society is also important.

So for example, I don't think prostitution should be allowed.

I think "honour" is important to protect in society.

I am a highly spiritual person... why shouldn't prostitution be allowed and tolerated? I'm not asking for the moon and the stars here, only that people's business be left to themselves. Honor is individual... at its most intersubjective it is the unwritten rules of fair play. I don't believe all honor is important to protect, nor do I believe it requires protecting. Why would it?

As for jealousy causing revenge, it's a factor, a motivation, but then their is praise when you overcome jealousy.

It's also praise where your love of the person and respect of his rights, overcomes your jealous feelings.

However, jealousy is not a bad feeling in itself. Well there is two types. There is one type, that wishes bad upon the other person. Then there is the type that you wish you had the good of that person. I think the latter is natural. Sometimes it's a mix of both.

And the type of jealous nature, the want of the partner for yourself, comes out appreciation of who they are. No it's not base all the time.

Why should one be praised for having been jealous... for resenting another for what they have? That's just plain unfriendly and misplaced, especially when envious of someone you care for. Jealousy is a horrible feeling... the paranoia, the absence of trust, the black desires causing one to want for harm upon another... why would this be a good thing? Simply: there are not 'two forms' for jealousy... there is wist and envy. Wistfulness is a pleasant or sad dream of what might have been, a fantasy... not that sick and mired covetous possessiveness.

Yes, jealousy is absolutely base. All of the time.

I'm sorry, you might as well call romantic love base all the time. Sure if you don't know the partner, and had no relationship with them, and you felt jealousy over them simply on their looks or something, that is base. But even that is natural. It simply sparks out of the love we have for ourselves.

Romance has absolutely nothing to do with jealousy. Sentimentality, idealization, excitement, sweet intrigue, fun: these are romance. One can easily despise themselves, and yet love someone... them value judgements. Master before thyself, thyself before thy food, thy food before thy enemy.

Jealousy is a double edge sword. It can be bad, it can be good. In marriage, not having jealous nature type love over your partner, means you care less if they go have sex with another or love another. I'm sorry but that means you don't value the romantic relationship between you as you should.

And kids naturally feel that way over their parents without parents ever telling them they should.

It's true, I care less if they do have sex with or love with others. But that's personal. Other couples make it clear to each other that they are monogamous... I couldn't do this because of the focus on possessiveness... I find it unhealthy. The staggering divorce rate speaks for itself. The mountainous affair rate speaks for the rest. Regardless... I do not believe jealousy is important to staying monogamous, especially given that many a jealous bitch is sleeping/flirting around themselves.

I'm sorry, but I've been through highschool, and it doesn't get better Children are possessive, so what: it's a survival technique. My method is entirely too giving for my continued survival... or so I believed until the world started giving back to me everything I need 0.o

... And children don't always love their parents. Too many assholes in this world, too much psychological damage possible.

You got to be kidding me. So if you love your husband/wife, and you don't want him/her having sex with others, you are having inconsiderate control?

I believe that, yes. If I am no able to fulfill every sexual, romantic, emotional, physical, or social need of a loved one: I am completely ready to allow them to find others to fill the void.

I will try harder, I will make fresh hummus... but if that isn't enough: I'm prepared to admit that I'm not enough for someone I don't joke around about being the best I can be for those I love... and sometimes that means stepping back.

Mob like potential preference of society...it's not necessarily that one will be majority, but that it can become a norm.

For example, it maybe that guys won't marry one woman with a husband. But the same would not be true of woman marrying men with another wife.

Or if society totally looses it , it can be the other way.

It's not that it will definetly happen, but it's possible. It's not necessarily that both would be embraced.

Harems happen plenty often already... I could only hope that in a society where polyamority/gamy is recognized and accepted: there would be a greater social safety net for people involved. Getting my hopes up too far? Yeah, we can't even accept people who've been goddamn trafficked.

Your missing the point. If it's legal to marry multiple partners, then it can become very hard to keep a monogamous relationship. It's become much easier to cheat.

Society already cheats well enough. It's something we should try to reduce, not make it more easier and more of a norm.

It doesn't become 'easier' to cheat, if the desire is there then there is little that can stop it but self-control and willpower. Cheating is just as deal-breakingly bad for polyamority as it is for monoamority. And the reason for this is simple: it is a relationship with another person... cheating is going behind the back of that person. I don't know many people who are so forgiving to just let it slide, even I take a huge beating over it (as recently occurred when my partner gave someone a blowjob. And I only ask for a heads-up).

What you don't seem to get, is that just because you *can* marry more than one person: it doesn't mean your other partners will accept that. Welcome to what I feel greatly traps me in this relationship

No, not just me. It takes the majority. But my voice in the many would be to enforce these red lines.

And in fact, personally, I want bigger consequences for cheating in society. Of course not the "stoning" penalty of Islam, but a heavy consequence.

A heavy consequence... for wanting to fuck people? What... the fuck?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uv8Ej4CEoQ

Generations in the future will see who will win.

Hate to tell you... but the question for them will be if it's legal to 'marry' your clone. Or by then the atrocity that is marriage will be formally done away with for anyone not in a cult.