(November 2, 2012 at 12:15 am)FallentoReason Wrote: I completely agree. To construct my argument though, I was forced to assume that a divine being exists, that it created a universe it actually cared about, that it created other heavenly beings which he knew would possibly rebel i.e. Satan, that he created a garden where his first creations were deceived by the thing he knew would decieve his creations, that these beings would produce 3 000+ other gods, that Satan conveniently set up these 3 000+ other gods to make it harder to find the true god, that Jesus is 100% original despite all this, that he came to redeem us from what he started and that people in a superstitious world actually were recording the One Truth, which can be found in the Bible. Only then can I say that God's two wills make it seem like he decided to will his own non-existence in the first place.
Meeting theists halfway really drains you intellectually. So many hoops to jump through!
Have any theists called you on this assumption that their God is all powerful? Perhaps, far from being a skill event, creating worlds is like a bad case of gas for a God. Yes, that's right, perhaps creating the world/universe is just a natural body function for a god. They don't choose what it looks like. It just comes out that way.
Come on theists! Don't make me do all the work for you. Don't let us get away with unwarranted assumptions about your skyboy's intentions. That may just all be one big, steaming pile of shit.