Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.

[Something completely different]

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Your defination of 'reason' is inaccurate.

Your right! that is an inaccurate use of the word reason.
that is why i took Op's use of the word 'reason' and more accuratly identified as properganda, And because of the Hate and contempt for the one this properganda is levied against, I compared it to some of the Nazi Properganda usd durning the 1930 and 1940 against the Jews. For they too used a wide varity of 'fact' to build what they thought to be a logical arguement/conclusion. Their hate was so strong that they ignored any 'facts' that did not lead to the conclusion that they had already made.

I did not write that! Edit your post!

Oh, I don't know, what about the last 7 months of daily dialog i have had with him on this subject?

That is not an answere to why his reasoning is supposidly "nazi-reasoning"

Answere chicken!

Your either an idoit or just obstinate. This is the exact oppsite of what I have said at least 6 times in this thread.

I resist the urge to point out the fact that when you wrote "idiot" to accuse me of being an idiot, you wrote it as

idoit

.

How is it the opposite, you wrote:

You believe 'reason' to be the natural conclusion of observal phenomena, but in realitiy 'reason' is the use of natural phenomena to disproove God. If God is indeed the God of the natural universe then Natural phenomena would be the very processes He would use to complete whatever task He set out to complete.

Now my english isnt the best, but to me this clearly says "God is behind the natural process so reasoning out how it works isnt needed".

Oh you crazy germans..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_propaganda
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters1.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/w...lery.shtml
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ww2era.htm

what is the point of that? how does this show how cinjin uses "nazi reasoning"

Are seriously trying to channel cultural exclusivity. (No one can know about Nazi's except those who were born german?)

No I am saying: "those who lie about historical facts to demonise people in todays sociial debates are moronic assholes of the worst kind."
If you cant prove that Cinjin uses "nazi reasoning" you are one of these moronic assholes, unless you apologise to him!

I think Native Americans and maybe AfricanAmericans can do this and it is wearing thin on soceity. Germany lost that right in 1945.

Can you back up that statement that these minority groups use their history exlusively for their purpose? Who are you to judge when historicly unjust things have been repaied?!
We never had that right! but unlike you we looked for the facts in our history to determin what to do in order for such things never to happen again.

No I am saying: "those who lie about historical facts to demonise people in todays sociial debates are moronic assholes of the worst kind."
If you cant prove that Cinjin uses "nazi reasoning" you are one of these moronic assholes, unless you apologise!

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it... WWI, and then one generation later WWII. Are you setting yourself of for WWIII?

Those who missuse historical crimes to demonise their opponents on a social level are doomed to be seen as vail idiotic dishonest morons - and are ironicaly not that different from the historic subjects they use!