Hell, or rather my brief experience of it.

[Drich]

I haven't read all of this, but I have read a good part. Drich, please stop it with the double standard. You have told me that I need to A/S/K for god in order to find him. When I told you (this was all in another thread) that I was once a believer, you said I didn't truly ask.

when and where?

When I pointed out that one of the members where was once a pastor, you suggested that someone may become for selfish reasons, or something to that effect, and that the insincerity of it would not allow them to see god.

when and where?

So I ask, how much more insincere can one get that going to church to get someone to a girl to like them?

I went for a girl without a doubt. But I did not stay because of the girl. The time spent chasing a girl was a waist of time. I did not learn nor did i experience anything.

You were clearly not A/S/King, but you still had a 'revelation' in the form of a bad dream.

Not while I was chasing tail, no. My 'revelation came after she started dating someone else. I felt like I was tricked into going to church and for a time I lashed back at God. I looked for him A/S/K just to spit in His eye. Maybe that is why I got to look Him in the eye. Kind of a chrushing moment that was...

You then go on to say that just because something is natural and perfectly explainable scientifically doesn't mean an undetectable omnipotent being with infinite knowledge of the universe couldn't have telepathically sent it to you as a sign.

when and where?
That is the problem here. You think you have a complete story and you haven't even scratched the surface. every event, happening, circumstance.. All of it is made clear in the details. I put out the high points of this story waiting for one of you to ask a question that would allow me to go deeper into this story, but all I have gotten back is more crap like what you just posted. You challenge what you do not understand or what is not familiar to you, because why is this guy/me special? Why haven't I/you experienced anything remotely close to what he/me has seen?

I can tell you why and I can show you how to be given another chance to commune with God... I am apart of the A/S/K process, and all the loudest of you can do is try and change the subject or default to the same old arguements. Why not just ASK a question rather than assume you know the answer.

One cannot possibly argue with stubbornness on this level, so I will not even waste my time trying.

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Nazi propaganda? You mean like this:

Well, of course not. But you must remember, the Nazis were anti-semantic, but not anti-religious in general.

Actually, no.
More like this:
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/rim5.htm
It started with the memo above distancing Nazis from the Political aspect of the Church in 1935, and then in 1941 it severed all ties from the church all together.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/koehler.htm

Your example is not actually any type of recognized Nazi propaganda. (As the Nazi Party had absolutely no affiliation with any form of the church.) It how ever is exactly the type of hate/propaganda that does indeed Harkens back to the methods and Tactics Gerbils would have been proud of. (Minus the actual content of course.)

As now you have been made aware the Nazi party did not have any affiliation with the Church what so ever, so they wouldn't have ever fought for it. You picture is just a poor photoshoped example of an atheist doing whatever it takes to try and win an argument. Ironically the fool who originally created this image (and everyone who has used it for it's intended purpose since) has had to sell their souls to the very same process men like Hitler and Gerbils did for the very same reason. To try and win hearts and minds by twisting the facts to suit their/your agenda. You like cinny, had proved you are cut from the same cloth these men were. Congrats on establishing yourself as a 'do what ever it takes' kinda man.[/quote]

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Goodbye, Drich. I have no use for you nor desire to waste my world on you.

By the way, I am not a sir. I realize it's a subtle thing for you to pick up on, so I'll help you out this one last time.

Sorry, I should have just let you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9gjW9RmkpY