RE: Pro-porn, anti-porn or in between?
December 1, 2012 at 11:20 pm
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2012 at 11:26 pm by Tea Earl Grey Hot.)
(December 1, 2012 at 10:23 pm)Daniel Wrote:(December 1, 2012 at 10:21 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: Vincent stated that he had scientific proof of it being unhealthy. And he didnt.Of course he doesn't. That would be like having scientific proof of sex being unhealthy.
(December 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: There's actually a bit of controversy over the meaning of pornea. It's not clear anymore what it means exactly. The best translation of it I've heard is simply "sexual immorality."That's not a good translation. It's a loose translation and completely wrong. Pornea does not mean anything to do with "morality" it has to do with sex acts, not with morals. "sexual deviants" would be closer to the meaning than "sexual immorality". Pornea would certainly not even include viewing pornography, because it doesn't concern itself with morality.
What sex acts are you thinking of? I'm not saying it means to include masturbation. It's a vague term that doesn't specify anything specifically apart from its immediate context. "Sexual immorality" could mean many things. Porneia literally means prostitution but its use suggests a less literal intent. In the way it's used, the word is best understood to be "doing something bad in a sexual sense" (whatever "bad" means).
Quote:Two words actually: malakoi and arsenokoitai. The meaning of these words seems to be unclear and there are arguments that they don't have to do with homosexuality, at least in the way we think of homosexuality. Robert M. Price gives an overview of the debate among critical scholars over what the bible says on homosexuality at 23:10 here: http://www.thehumanbible.net/episode_007/(December 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Same with the word that has been traditional translated as homosexual. That word isn't clear to many scholars anymore either.And what word would that be exactly?
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).