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Atheists Wager
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RE: Atheists Wager
(December 11, 2012 at 8:34 am)CliveStaples Wrote:
(December 11, 2012 at 8:27 am)Gooders1002 Wrote: I am talking about after all, being Kind and given somebody money to buy drugs is of course a bad thing, it all about being relive.
When I say Good: It means helping people improve their life in some way (even if it's only temporary). Example: feeding the homeless or cheering somebody up/
When it talks about being bad: It means you're having a negative effect on somebody's life in some way (even if it's only temporary). Example: Stealing something or hurting somebody because you can.

Right, but how do you know that you should do "Good" things and refrain from doing "bad" things? How do you know that you're not supposed to steal or hurt others?

Remember, atheists rely only on evidence. What scientific proof do you have that you shouldn't hurt others?

Quote:Do you seriously want me to answer that? Would you like a negative outcome happen to you?

Probably not, but I might also want to steal my neighbor's car. I might want not to get caught by the police; I might want to kill or intimidate any witnesses into remaining silent.

And what does it matter what I would like to happen to myself?

Firstly this stuff cannot be explained by science yet, we're working on it.
This all boils down to the golden rule, do on to others which you would do to yourself. Unless your psychotic, would you want some to steal your stuff or hurt you? I know Good and Evil are subjective (and requires a whole other debate) but for the sack of argument.
Good is defined: Aiding somebody's freedom and well-being.
Evil is Defined: Hindering somebody's freedom and well-being.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
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Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 7:37 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 7:39 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 9:02 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 9:12 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Napoléon - December 11, 2012 at 11:12 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by pgrimes15 - December 11, 2012 at 10:36 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Norfolk And Chance - December 12, 2012 at 7:10 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 12, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 12, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Norfolk And Chance - December 12, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Mister Agenda - December 11, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by pocaracas - December 11, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 7:54 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by LastPoet - December 11, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 12, 2012 at 4:19 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ben Davis - December 12, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by LastPoet - December 12, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by John V - December 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by John V - December 11, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Minimalist - December 12, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ryantology - December 12, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Creed of Heresy - December 13, 2012 at 3:58 am

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