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Atheists Wager
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RE: Atheists Wager
(December 11, 2012 at 7:55 am)CliveStaples Wrote: How do you know that being kind and helpful is "good"? Can you cite a scientific experiment whose outcome demonstrated that being kind and helpful is "good"?

Why should you prefer "positive" outcomes to "negative" ones?

Ooooh, I know what. Let's have god, as a judge. We are mere humans and as "good" and "bad" are mere concepts that mean different things to different people, then you need an ultimate authority above all people to decide. Therefore god is real.

Am I getting warm as to where you are headed?

One small problem - there is no way to contact this authority for answers as to what is good or bad, so he's a fat lot of fucking use isn't he? There's nothing in the bible about where pumping the atmosphere full of co2 is "good" or "bad" for example, and that leaves us to examine the evidence and leaves the good/bad decision squarely on our own shoulders. As ever.

Take your meaningless, invisible, uncontactable judge and fuck off, thanks
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.

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Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 7:37 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 7:39 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 9:02 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 9:12 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Napoléon - December 11, 2012 at 11:12 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by pgrimes15 - December 11, 2012 at 10:36 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Norfolk And Chance - December 12, 2012 at 7:10 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 12, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 12, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Norfolk And Chance - December 12, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Mister Agenda - December 11, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by pocaracas - December 11, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 7:54 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by LastPoet - December 11, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 12, 2012 at 4:19 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ben Davis - December 12, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by LastPoet - December 12, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by John V - December 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by John V - December 11, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Minimalist - December 12, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ryantology - December 12, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Creed of Heresy - December 13, 2012 at 3:58 am

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