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Atheists Wager
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RE: Atheists Wager
(December 12, 2012 at 6:00 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: ...
(December 12, 2012 at 8:42 am)Ben Davis Wrote: Sorry to derail but... not this again! I hate this attempt at limiting the power of the scientific method because it's intellectually dishonest given our current understanding of how humans make judgements.

The best way to get to an 'ought' is from an 'is'. We know this instinctively and practice it's application every day.

Can you go into more detail? You're not really giving me any reasons to think that your claim is true, other than you simply making the claim.

I think he's referring to something like this: It is the case that a certain course of action will lead to a certain desired result, therefore you ought do that action. If you value animal life, and you are about to run over an animal with your car, then you ought to step on the brake pedal because that is the best course of action in that moment to save the animal's life.

Of course, this is all dependent on what your values are.
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Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 7:37 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 7:39 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 9:02 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 9:12 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Napoléon - December 11, 2012 at 11:12 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by pgrimes15 - December 11, 2012 at 10:36 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Norfolk And Chance - December 12, 2012 at 7:10 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 12, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 12, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Norfolk And Chance - December 12, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Mister Agenda - December 11, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by pocaracas - December 11, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 7:54 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by LastPoet - December 11, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 12, 2012 at 4:19 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ben Davis - December 12, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by LastPoet - December 12, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by John V - December 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by John V - December 11, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Minimalist - December 12, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ryantology - December 12, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Creed of Heresy - December 13, 2012 at 3:58 am

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