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Atheists Wager
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RE: Atheists Wager
(December 12, 2012 at 4:19 am)CliveStaples Wrote:
(December 11, 2012 at 9:05 am)LastPoet Wrote:


Oh, no, that's not what I'm getting at. I don't think that morality is a subset of theology--that is, that the only way to get to objective moral values is by way of theism.

Maybe that's true, and maybe it isn't--I am strongly inclined to think that it is false--but it's not what I'm getting at.


The point I'm making is that you can't get an "ought" (prescriptive values) from an "is" (understanding the physical states of the universe). Science doesn't get you to morality. No less an atheist than David Hume argued the same.


You are a bright guy, Clive I give you that, yet, you should know that magic and wishfull gods just does not cut it. I would be the first guy to accept the god you are preaching for if it would be made present to us humans, yet it hides from us. what is it's point? Look at all the christian denominations.
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Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 7:37 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 7:39 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 11, 2012 at 9:02 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Gooders1002 - December 11, 2012 at 9:12 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Napoléon - December 11, 2012 at 11:12 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by pgrimes15 - December 11, 2012 at 10:36 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Norfolk And Chance - December 12, 2012 at 7:10 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 12, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 12, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Norfolk And Chance - December 12, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Mister Agenda - December 11, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by pocaracas - December 11, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 7:54 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by LastPoet - December 11, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by CliveStaples - December 12, 2012 at 4:19 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ben Davis - December 12, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by LastPoet - December 12, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheists Wager - by John V - December 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by John V - December 11, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Minimalist - December 12, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Ryantology - December 12, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Atheists Wager - by Creed of Heresy - December 13, 2012 at 3:58 am

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