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Putting God to the Test
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RE: Putting God to the Test
I took this from the conference the paper was presented to (translated from German):

Quote:An International Conference of World Christian doctor networks (WCDN: global Christian network of doctor) met on December 14.
and may 15, 2008 about 200 doctors and healthcare professionals from 28 countries in Trondheim, Norway. The Conference gave the participants the opportunity to exchange about miracle cures for patients with incurable diseases. All these doctors believe in the power of prayer and use it especially where medical cure is no longer possible. During the meeting, the doctors presented their case studies on experienced miracle cures. The studies and data were presented on a big screen, and then the medical audience questions were answered. The doctors reported a resurrection of the dead superseded retina, which again grew and healings of many other large and small diseases.

Dr. Armando Pineda from Florida spoke with great passion about the need that doctors for their patients to pray. For example, he reported by many Cubans, whom he had served and released by magic.
Pineda added: "doctors are the most credible person when it comes to confirm God's healing power. We need to understand that miracles are infectious all diseases.» On the WCND Web page (http://www.wcdn.org) were published more than 60 witnesses about people, who have been healed by God (in English).
Source: WCDN
Quoted from Joel news copyright: © Marc van der Woude

What can I say? A conference where the participants believe that god can cure diseases?

Contrary to what the author says, doctors are not the most credible people to determine whether god can heal, or whether miracles occur. People who do repeated tests and evaluations of claims are. From the sounds of it, these people were leaning slightly on the bias of 'miracles are true and happen every day' (and by slightly I mea they believe it ferverently and no doubt believe they see miracles every day).

Also, this makes me suspect of it even more (thanks for the info Pocaracas):

(December 31, 2012 at 8:17 pm)pocaracas Wrote: The link works... strangely, not at first.
And it has a before and after shot as well.... with the word "prayer" in between.
But it seems they neglect to mention the surgery that must have been performed in between as well (http://nervous-system.emedtv.com/spina-b...ifida.html):
Quote:There is no cure for spina bifida; the nerve tissue that is damaged or lost cannot be repaired or replaced. Treatment of spina bifida will depend on the type and severity of the disorder. Although children with the mild form usually do not need treatment, they may require surgery as they grow.
This was apparently a mild case of the problem...

So yeah, not really going to take that seriously.

Also, I want to speak to the doctors that reported people being resurrected from the dead. If that doesn't scream "strike them off the medical register" I don't know what does.

Needless to say, witnesses are not evidence when it comes to scientific evaluations. I can observe bacteria reproducing, but if I don't produce evidence of it occurring (plates for example), then who can I expect to believe what I'm saying?
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Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - December 31, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by LastPoet - December 31, 2012 at 8:40 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Faith No More - December 31, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by pocaracas - December 31, 2012 at 9:35 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - December 31, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by pocaracas - December 31, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FallentoReason - January 1, 2013 at 2:40 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - January 1, 2013 at 3:25 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FallentoReason - January 1, 2013 at 3:30 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Faith No More - December 31, 2012 at 9:39 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Minimalist - December 31, 2012 at 11:17 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by CapnAwesome - December 31, 2012 at 11:24 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by pocaracas - December 31, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by CapnAwesome - December 31, 2012 at 11:57 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Nine - December 31, 2012 at 12:03 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 31, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by TaraJo - December 31, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - December 31, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 31, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - December 31, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Norfolk And Chance - December 31, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - December 31, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 31, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by pocaracas - December 31, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 31, 2012 at 8:23 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - January 1, 2013 at 2:21 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Zen Badger - January 1, 2013 at 4:36 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 1, 2013 at 7:36 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - January 1, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 1, 2013 at 7:59 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - January 1, 2013 at 11:07 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 2, 2013 at 4:36 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - January 2, 2013 at 4:56 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Mister Agenda - January 2, 2013 at 3:32 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - January 2, 2013 at 8:03 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 31, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Angrboda - December 31, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Phish - December 31, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by CapnAwesome - December 31, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Welsh cake - December 31, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Re: Putting God to the Test - by Annik - December 31, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Cato - December 31, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Mister Agenda - December 31, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - January 1, 2013 at 7:05 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Zen Badger - January 1, 2013 at 7:12 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - January 1, 2013 at 7:17 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Zen Badger - January 1, 2013 at 7:30 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Penhorse340 - January 1, 2013 at 5:57 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Norfolk And Chance - January 1, 2013 at 7:08 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by KichigaiNeko - January 1, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by KichigaiNeko - January 1, 2013 at 7:18 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Cyberman - January 1, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by FutureAndAHope - January 2, 2013 at 12:01 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Cato - January 2, 2013 at 2:44 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Penhorse340 - January 2, 2013 at 4:36 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Cyberman - January 2, 2013 at 12:42 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Gambit - January 2, 2013 at 2:17 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by KichigaiNeko - January 2, 2013 at 3:42 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Penhorse340 - January 2, 2013 at 4:42 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Angrboda - January 2, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by KichigaiNeko - January 2, 2013 at 4:59 am
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 2, 2013 at 1:02 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by LastPoet - January 2, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Minimalist - January 2, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Cyberman - January 2, 2013 at 8:03 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Fidel_Castronaut - January 2, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Putting God to the Test - by Justtristo - January 2, 2013 at 8:35 pm

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