Putting God to the Test

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Also, I want to speak to the doctors that reported people being resurrected from the dead. If that doesn't scream "strike them off the medical register" I don't know what does.

What is so strange about a God who can raise the dead.

It's impossible until proven otherwise. Sorry, but the laws of nature are pretty clear.

All I ask for is evidence, nothing more. Is that so bad?

In the circles I frequent this sort of thing happens often, not with me personally but with pastors I know of. If a person truely believes in God they believe he can raise the dead. Jesus said in the bible we would do the same works he did one of the things Jesus did was raise the dead.

A lovely story, but irrelevant. Witnesses to so called miracles are no evidence of said miracles. Hard, testable evidence is all I accept.

A hypothetical for you that uses your own logic:

A man you don't know comes up to you in the street and says you have contracted a rare form of an antibiotic resistant bacteria (let's say c.diff for recognition purposes). He asks for $100 so that he can give you an anti-biotic that he says will cure you.

Do you accept his word on blind faith, or would you require evidence that his claims were true?

I hope one day you come to your senses, and look at the evidence rather than express your opinions on facts.

I am truely sorry that you think I am doing this when it is in fact you who are doing it.

I was brought up in the UK and educated at an excellent school and an excellent university thereafter. One thing that was drilled into me was never take anything at face value. Always ask for facts to back up the claims. Thus far, I can see nonevidence to back yours up, merely empty posturing and an increasingly negative tone towards me.

All I've done is ask for some evidence for your claims, nothing more. You can't honestly believe you've presented some can you?

What more can a Christian do than record miracles,

record FACTS & EVIDENCE.

you say they should be struck of the register because they say they have a recorded example of a dead raising.

Where is this evidence? A doctor saying he 'saw someone being raised from the dead'? Where are the ECG scans? Where is the neuroscientists opinion, or the cardio-surgeons notes? Where is the EVIDENCE?

See my hypothetical above. I am not in the business of accepting eye witnesses accounts of scientific miracles without evidence to back them up, and neither should you be. That's not how science works, not how medicine works, not how reality works. Im sorry, but if we're going to get into a discussion on facts, lets start there.

Why don't you start to believe facts rather than sprout of your atheist opinions on people.

I have type 1 diabetes. This has been proven to me by a consultant endocrinologist who laid out to me what tests they were going to perform to prove this was the case (keytone levels, HBA1C test, bloods to determine whether my eyelets of langerhans had been cannibalised by my own immune system).

The results of these tests were plain for me to see; I have T1 diabetes. The symptoms explained the results of the tests.

EVIDENCE works great when it exists and can be used to back up the claim. I have no idea what an 'atheist opinion' is, so ill assume its a sleight of hand insult.

What sins do you commit that are so great you are prepared to ignore facts.

sleight of hand insult. thanks.

Christians are people too with brains and an interlect we just know what God has done in our lives, and the lives of others. What evidence do you have to support your claims that these people are crazy, it is just your opinion, nothing more.

I totally agree. Christians are people, and what I am stating is my opinion. However, my evidence that they are crazy is the LACK OF EVIDENCE they are providing to support their claims.

It is not sinful, nor is it delusional, to critique and question someone who believes they have seen a miracle.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". I have seen and read none, so by virtue I am skeptical and will continue to question and critique the claims until evidence is provided.

EDITED for spelling (iPad!)