RE: The logical consequences of omnipotence
January 17, 2013 at 11:16 am
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2013 at 11:20 am by John V.)
(January 17, 2013 at 9:14 am)Esquilax Wrote:There are those who say that a theory stands until a better theory takes its place, at least with regard to evolution. It's not a universal position - you're evidence of that - but it's not uncommon.(January 17, 2013 at 9:05 am)John V Wrote: I agree with you. However, I've seen many atheists argue the opposite in context of evolution.
I think you might be misunderstanding: generally when arguing evolution our position isn't "what have you got that's better?" It's "your position isn't as strong as you think it is, and furthermore, disproving our position doesn't lend any additional credibility to your own." It's in answer to this false dichotomy that we atheists often see in theist evolution-deniers, where disproving evolution somehow equates, in their minds, to proving creation. When all it really would do is disprove evolution.
But then again, I haven't ever been in the same kinds of debates or arguments with you, so I don't really know, do I? Just trying to provide a bit of flavor
(January 17, 2013 at 9:13 am)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote:I have no clue what you mean by "relies on god's omnipotence" or "result of god's omnipotence" with regard to this species.(January 16, 2013 at 3:13 pm)John V Wrote: First, what does this have to do with the topics at hand?
Second, I don't know, as the Bible doesn't say much on it to my knowledge. Romans 8 speaks of the "creation itself" being liberated from bondage to decay in the end. Because of this I lean toward animals from this era being there, but it's not much to go on.
I just wondered how this animal, Immortal Jellyfish (wiki link), fits in God's bigger picture and if the animal relies on God's omnipotence.
Quote:Biological immortality
Most jellyfish species have a relatively fixed life span, which varies by species from hours to many months (long-lived mature jellyfish spawn every day or night; the time is also fairly fixed and species-specific).[12] The medusa of Turritopsis nutricula is the only form known to have developed the ability to return to a polyp state, by a specific transformation process that requires the presence of certain cell types (tissue from both the jellyfish bell surface and the circulatory canal system). Careful laboratory experiments have revealed that all stages of the medusae, from newly released to fully mature individuals, can transform back into polyps.[3] The transforming medusa is characterized first by deterioration of the bell and tentacles, with subsequent growth of a perisarc sheet and stolons, and finally feeding polyps. Polyps further multiply by growing additional stolons, branches and then polyps, to form colonial hydroids. This ability to reverse the life cycle (in response to adverse conditions) is probably unique in the animal kingdom, and allows the jellyfish to bypass death, rendering Turritopsis nutricula potentially biologically immortal. Studies in the laboratory showed that 100% of specimens could revert to the polyp stage, but so far the process has not been observed in nature, in part because the process is quite rapid and field observations at the right moment in time are unlikely.[3] In spite of this remarkable ability, most Turritopsis medusae are likely to fall victim to the general hazards of life as plankton, including being eaten by other animals, or succumbing to disease
Theoretically, this is animal is immortal. Is that the result of god's omnipotence?
You can say that any single-celled creature is immortal. What's that got to do with omnipotence?