(January 15, 2013 at 9:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I once had some fundie asshole ( okay - that's redundant ) claim that my acceptance of the Big Bang Theory was faith based because I did not have a degree in astrophysics. Now, two things on this. One even without a degree a man like Neil De Grasse Tyson can explain his position and the evidence in such a way as it make a convincing argument...whereas some of these creatards can only mumble on about fucking god or jesus or some such other shit.
The second thing is that I know were I not too lazy I could get off my ass and go back to a university to get a degree which would enable me to evaluate the Big Bang without having to rely on evidence supplied by other scholars. Now, I could also get off my ass and get a theology degree which would enable me to study an ancient book of iron age superstitions and pretend that there are answers to actual questions therein.
I choose not to waste my time with either but that does not degrade Tyson's evidence to the point where the bible becomes any less of a pile of total shit.
The other interesting thing to note here is, to the creationists that make this claim about 'faith' in the Big Bang, how one would go about eliminating this faith and become knowledgeable enough to know:
To remove one's faith in the Big Bang, one must go to a reputable university, study hard for years, and get a very labor intensive degree in a highly complex and technical field. In other words, the path to accepting the Big Bang theory, according to this creationist logic, is rigorous study and intellectual betterment. Implicitly, one must be very smart to 'know' the Big Bang is a compelling theory.
I could talk forever about the double standard here; about how faith is considered sufficient to believe in creation, but the scientific alternative somehow requires more, but I don't really have to. I just like the implication that the path away from creationism is knowledge.
Sometimes I wonder if apologists and creationists actually think about their arguments before they use them, or if they just talk based on what sounds good at first thought.
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