RE: Muslim Jesus: Great Prophet?
January 21, 2013 at 2:35 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2013 at 2:36 pm by DeistPaladin.)
(January 21, 2013 at 12:59 pm)AtlasS Wrote: As I understand the "Confirmation Bias", it's more like "act a fool" policy, that is pretty pathetic, if a person thought in such way, and made his/her logic based on that.
In this context, I mean "looking for reasons to believe what you already do."
You find this kind of thinking not just in religion but astrology horoscopes, interpretation of Nostradamus quatrains, wacky political conspiracy theories, etc.
Specifically, looking back on events that happened and trying to find patterns in these events that validate your sacred beliefs is poor logic, especially when dealing with unseen supernatural forces where cause, effect and motive are impossible to be confirm.
To provide an alternate religious example, some Christians in America expressed the belief after hurricane Katrina that God was upset with all the "immorality" going on in New Orleans. Evidently, the fact that we fully understand how hurricanes happen and no divine hand is required doesn't stop the pious from speculating on supernatural causes or overlook the effects of natural causes like global warming. Neither does anyone who believes in such expressions of divine wrath ever question why God's methods of communication these days is indistinguishable from natural events.
But even assuming that a divine hand is at work in events that require no supernatural explanation, why assume one motive and not another? Maybe God was upset that George W. Bush was just re-elected and sought to hit America right in the middle of the reddest states? One attributed motive seems as good as any other.
And such reasoning, as I stated, is selectively used. Conservative Christians were quick to see a divine hand in Katrina but not in the droughts that plagued conservative, Christian Texas in recent years. Odd that the day of prayer called for by Gov Perry was of no help in ending the drought. Only the atheist convention finally brought the needed rain. Or was there a connection?
Taking this same logic to Islam, why is the fall of the Roman Empire a sign of Allah's displeasure? 400 years later? Hard to see much cause and effect there. And if the Dark Ages of Europe juxtaposed by the enlightened times of the Arab world at the same time in history are confirmation of Islam, what do we make of the fact that now the tables are turned?
Oh, but wait, I forgot, it doesn't count when events don't confirm what you already believe.
That's what confirmation bias is.
(January 21, 2013 at 2:16 pm)AtlasS Wrote: A prophet receives, he then tells.
But prophets are two kinds, you have the "messenger prophet", and the "prophet".
Messenger = new stuff (like mohammad & jesus).
prophet only = renewal of old stuff.
What did Jesus teach? The Muslim Jesus, that is.
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