(January 21, 2013 at 9:08 pm)AtlasS Wrote: It wasn't taken out of context, taken the variability of the context itself, which christians change with each interpretation. So my proverbial butt is a little bit out of range, since christians themselves are not sure. I shall use their same claim : translation failure .
I hate to advocate Christian bullshit but theirs is at least internally consistent bullshit.
The Christian "interpretation" of that verse is because that's what it was. The context of the Gospel of John followed up by the Book of Acts spells out the arrival of The Holy Spirit at the Pentecost. The Islamic interpretation only works for those who have not read the Bible.
Quote:You have a major flow in understanding what the heck destiny, punishment, winning & losing means in islam.
I don't want to get side-tracked into a discussion that my understanding is based on reality (the natural world) and yours is based on fantasy (Heaven and Hell). We're talking about the internal inconsistency in your own story. Don't change the subject.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
