The logical consequences of omnipotence

[Celi]

I meant that I was satisfied with it

I know you did. You manage without hope. Not an intrinsically bad thing. But less preferable.

Again, please define 'hope'. I really don't get what you mean when you say that. Before you said that hope is meaning+purpose, which, besides not making any sense, doesn't apply here because atheists are (as I explained twice) not necessarily lacking either of those.

Edit: (Ug, talking through edits like this is getting irritating)

To have a rationally based positive belief that universal goodness prevails.

Ah. Well, while I don't see how adding meaning and hope together could get that, I actually have some understanding of what you're saying now. Not entirely, though. If you mean a belief that good wins, always, then that's not rationally based at all, and not at all preferable. If you mean a belief that trying to be good/kind is generally best, most atheists would agree with that, as would most people in general.

If you mean the belief that good people will be rewarded and evil people punished in the afterlife, I don't see why not believing it is 'less preferable'. As I tend to emphasize in discussions like this, people don't typically need a carrot on a stick to try and follow their own morals, and eternal torture isn't an acceptable punishment for anything. Unless you just can't accept the idea of permanent death (I have trouble with it myself), a chaotic universe is preferable to one that follows such unreasonable rules as that.