RE: Muslim Jesus: Great Prophet?
January 23, 2013 at 10:45 am
(This post was last modified: January 23, 2013 at 10:46 am by WinterHold.)
Quote:The term is used in English history to refer to the time when England was invaded by Saxons and Vikings who wanted to settle. A second meaning of Dark Ages here was the scarcity of written records so there was very little idea of what was actually going on. These days there have been many new archaeological finds and studies so historians have a much better knowledge of this historical period.
I always wondered why books & records were scarce at that period, even in the 13th century, where almost all civilizations had libraries & numerous books (the arabs, the christians of Constantinople, the chinese, the japanese, even some far away civilizations like the mayans).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wl7gPDAelY
But this documentary shows some historical records, but only for kings. I sense a very monopolized community.
Quote:I find this period of history very interesting. (Giving a link and a quote here because I can't assume that everyone who finds this topic is interested in medieval history.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_con...val_Europe
Quote:Islamic contributions to Medieval Europe were numerous, affecting such varied areas as art, architecture, medicine, agriculture, music, language, and technology. From the 11th to 13th centuries, Europe absorbed knowledge from the Islamic civilization. Of particular importance was the rediscovery of the ancient classic texts, most notably the work of the Greek natural philosopher Aristotle, through retranslations from Arabic.
Not that all this learning transformed medieval Europe into a Golden Age, though. For the most part the Europeans remained 'bug eating savages' (Couldn't resist borrowing your description.)
It is interesting, I would pay anything just to go back in time & see that era.
About the books, I did reach a conclusion that the royal court & the church monopolized any kind of knowledge, which explains the contradictions of the amazing cathedrals which are built with a very sophisticated technology and arts, while peasants live in grass huts.
Quote:I think a lot of modern historians try to take a more objective view of history. The Arabs in the Arab peninsula in those days acted like bug eating savages in a lot of respects but there were cities and trading etc. For myself, I think it's the only way to look at history. The Romans had an impressive civilisation but they were also bug eating savages in a lot of respects. For example, the Roman Games were spectacles of sickening cruelty for public amusement.
http://www.historytoday.com/keith-hopkin...cient-rome
lol, it's true to some aspect, but I hold a great respect to the romans, they had a very good civilizations, but ruined it with blood & savagery will. But through out history, I think they were one of the closest to modern humanity. Or so I was told :p the truth can always differ.
Quote:I've come to look at history as a 'human species' thing. The Dark Ages was a dreadful period but the world has never been free of dreadful goings on somewhere or other. The 20th Century was another horrific period even though we had all that knowledge and technological progress. There were two world wars plus horrific goings on around the world throughout the century. Humans are capable of great things but we can still revert to being bug eating savages and often do.
A great point.
Killing is killing, it doesn't matter if it took place during a medieval battle or by a modern jet fighter in a world war, it's always the same.
Even massacres, they took place in a very "dark ageish" way, in serbia & Palestine ( Bashar al Asad is doing the same also).
I really want to know what moves humans into that behavior, it seems like a constant since the time of the romans. Even if it's decreasing, but it's still there, kinda.
(January 22, 2013 at 1:13 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Consider me ( a guy who only takes info from the Quran as a first source ; and consider the other sources "lame & incomplete".
That's an interesting perspective. Thank you for explaining it.
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You are welcome : )