RE: What the hell is "hell"? why do humans go to hell ?
January 23, 2013 at 1:03 pm
(This post was last modified: January 23, 2013 at 1:06 pm by WinterHold.)
(January 23, 2013 at 12:41 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:(January 23, 2013 at 9:31 am)AtlasS Wrote: It all comes down to your believe in luck, in religion luck is a myth. People are getting what they worked for.
It's all justice.
Totally. That 5-year old said no to her parents once, and that's why her intestines are now outside her body.
Very gory.
But it's unfair to judge a person before he/she is responsible, right ?
It's really weird, that humans nag all the time about being "perfect & don't need any help", but when God does it & leaves everything to them, they also backfire & nag about how god is cruel !
and if god took charge over them, they would go back again & nag about how god doesn't leave a chance for them to rule by themselves.
A wonderful specie.
(January 23, 2013 at 12:51 pm)pocaracas Wrote:(January 23, 2013 at 11:19 am)AtlasS Wrote: I would like to know how you understand a statement like "explained through science".If you go by the standard model, the smallest particle is a quark.
They didn't explain where the phenomena comes from, but how it takes place.
Do you know the concept of recursion ? In Computer Science, it's a function calling a function for infinity, unless you put a brick point called "the base case", to stop the function call at a certain time.
In any science in the world, you go into a recursive rode, until you reach the base case. In any physical object you would reach the atom, that's your base case.
I want you to explain to me where the base case comes from in your opinion : ) You can also find a lot of other base cases inside the atom itself. I'm not asking about what an atom is.
Am asking where this atom came from.
Please tell me you started to see the point.
If you go by string theory, the smallest constituent is a string.
Where did these things come from?
We don't really know.
Why did they come about?
Does there have to be a reason? Does there have to be an anterior motive?
If yes, the god hypothesis must be subjected to the same line of questioning. Where did the god come from? why?
The theist concept only pushes the question one step back, while presenting an unverifiable answer to the previous step.
Many have claimed then that god is eternal and has always been there, and whatever.... Why can't I make the same claim for the Universe's constituents?
As far as verifiability, we're on the same stand-point.
Why would someone add the extra step?
I actually agree on your point, in its very core.
We all reach the conclusion of "something can't be explained". So it's all up to choose a way to deal with that.
Some of us go to the idea of the creator, others go to the other road.
again, it's all up to arrogance. People who have pride probably choose the other path, while the weak turn to the idea of the creator.
Might also explain why religion is always wild-spread in poor countries.
