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Another law thread
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RE: Another law thread
(January 23, 2013 at 7:50 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
Quote:Side discussion: Free will is also the reason their can not be undenyable proof of God. Because undenyable proof ends our ablity to choose.

If you give me undeniable proof of god's existence, how does that remove from me the choice to do whatever I wish to do?

The reason there can't be undeniable proof is because the very idea is unfalsifiable.

Quote:Which is the reason bad things happen to 'good people.'

Many bad things which happen to good people are natural and are not influenced by human intent in any way.

If you know to be real without doubt, then you know everything He has told us would also be real without question. Salvation ceases to be about loving God, and becomes a matter of self preservation. Even if you resent God the knowledge of Him and your coming judgement would at the very least place on in a position "moral" justification (makes you a Luke warm Christian) which Christ condemns to hell.

The point of this life is to give you enough experience to make a clear decision in your heart as to who you are in relation to God. If God took away the cloud you are allowed to live in now by giving you the proof you claim you need, most would spend the next fifty years going through the motions of religion, just to wind up in hell to forever wonder what you were doing there. As it is God hides from us till we seek Him out. This allows us to know who we are in relation to God. So whatever we choose for ourselves we know why and what to expect, thus allowing us to accept our fate.

(January 23, 2013 at 11:59 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Can you prove that it was God who showed it to you, and not simply a dream like any other?

What if God used a dream like anyother to show me? Why would all powerful God not be allowed to use common dreams to give revelations? the bible seems to think this is a legitimate avenue for God to use to communicate.
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