Re: RE: The logical consequences of omnipotence
January 24, 2013 at 2:23 am
(This post was last modified: January 24, 2013 at 3:09 am by fr0d0.)
(January 23, 2013 at 9:40 pm)Celi Wrote: So you were saying that good triumphs over evil all the time with no exceptions? Because that's what I called irrationalYes, I'll say it again, that's what I believe. Not that there is no evil, but that good always triumphs.
This is the example of you dismissing my opinion out of hand. You don't seem to notice yourself doing it. Yes you don't get it. Don't get hung up on the word ignorant.
My world view is not irrational. It is just not known to you. A tolerant person respectfully disagrees. An intolerant person won't allow for any opinion besides their own.
(January 23, 2013 at 9:40 pm)Celi Wrote: Even so, you say that my position is 'ignorant of the facts'. As in, my argument isn't logically sound due to a lack of information on my part. (By the way, if you really think there are 'facts' that you could tell me that would make me abandon my argument and see the light, why haven't you given them to me? If that's not the case, then all you really mean is that I'm wrong, not ignorant.)Ignorant of the facts does not equal logically unsound. With the information you have, you form your world view. You can do no other.
You were raised a Methodist. You should already have come across the facts. Understanding them is the key. What is the unlock code for you? I have no idea.
If you lack knowledge of something, then you are ignorant if it. I don't see you making a convincing attack of that definition.
(January 23, 2013 at 9:40 pm)Celi Wrote: I still don't get what you're talking about here. Could you clarify?You get it exactly, because you just expounded on it. My point on that is, if you get, like you say the vast majority of people do, that there is a logical benefit to positive interaction between people, then that reasoning is the same that applies when considering God. Adding God into the equation extends the benefit universally, hence good wins.
You are not going to come to the same conclusion as me, because that would require belief in God. But you can see the rational process that predicates my conclusion.
(January 23, 2013 at 9:40 pm)Celi Wrote: The only real difference is that I don't believe it was made specifically for humanity.But then you are talking about science and not theology. A category error.