The logical consequences of omnipotence

[fr0d0]

So the answer to my question is yes, then? I'm not sure because, while that seems to match what I thought it was, you tell me again that I don't understand it.

No. You got it totally wrong again and by some miracle you seem to think the opposite. I don't know how you're missing it. I'm trying to simplify my language but it isn't helping.

If your interpretation was even close to viable, that statement might hold true.

Besides which--atheism isn't even close to viable? Who's dismissing who out of hand?

Look at this!!! Where the hell did I say that atheism isn't couse to viable???

Have another stab at it and see if you can't get closer to understanding what I'm actually saying without wildly misinterpreting it.

Please show me what inaccurate conclusions I've made about your position. Sure, I don't fully understand it, because you won't explain it in anything more than the vaguest terms, but I've acknowledged that. I have gone into clearly-marked conjecture as to what those posts might have meant, because you typically ignore me when I ask you to elaborate.

You keep belly aching about vagueness, yet the subject of our conversation us an overview of our world views. There is nothing finely detailed in what we are discussing.

Examples? See every time I say no to you? Those are your inaccuracies. I'm explaining the same points over and over. I'm taking into account now that you have a Methodist background, so should have some idea of what I'm talking about, as that's my background too. But you seem to be totally clueless about Christianity.

Again, if there's some fact I don't have right that you can explain to me that will make me come around to your point of view, I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, when you say that I misunderstand something, you're really just saying that my interpretation of the information is incorrect. And obviously you think that, but I think you're wrong too. Obviously.

Yeah... The one 'fact' is that I believe in God. You are not going to understand that, unless you believe yourself. Let me break that down for you... I believe through faith. Faith is acting upon information that you trust. You have the information, but you don't trust it/ assent intellectually. Therefore you cannot act upon it and believe.

What you have to do here is respect someone's position without understanding it yourself. You can know the mechanics of it, like above, but your conclusions won't be the same.

... ran out of time. I'll try to get back to you on your question.